upgrading from shared to semi dedicated server

[daabomb2002]

ok i'm currently on the hatchling plan. if i wanted to upgrade to a semi dedicated server,can hostgator do this for me? And what is the cost?

And will I lose all my info on my shared server if i upgrade to a semi dedicated server? I currently have a phpscript directory website on my shared server,so would it be possible to Clone my current servers hard drive, and load it onto the semi dedicated server's hard drive so i don't have to install my script again? If this is possible,what is the cost and how long would it take and how long would my website be Offline for?

Thanks

[Sam]

Yep.. hostgator can easily do this without you loosing data and your site will only be down while the DNS works it's magic

[Serra]

Originally Posted by daabomb2002

ok i'm currently on the hatchling plan. if i wanted to upgrade to a semi dedicated server,can hostgator do this for me? And what is the cost?

And will I lose all my info on my shared server if i upgrade to a semi dedicated server? I currently have a phpscript directory website on my shared server,so would it be possible to Clone my current servers hard drive, and load it onto the semi dedicated server's hard drive so i don't have to install my script again? If this is possible,what is the cost and how long would it take and how long would my website be Offline for?

Just to add, you can expect no downtime, but it may take a few days for the move to actually happen.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Serra

Just to add, you can expect no downtime, but it may take a few days for the move to actually happen.

Wont there be downtime during DNS Propagation?

[smp]

Wont there be downtime during DNS Propagation?

Yeah there would be, because Daabomb would have to change his domains nameservers to those of the new server and the domain would have to then point to the new server.

However for me Propagation has never taken any longer than 20-30 mins (despite it's commonly said it takes 24-48)

so realistically Daabomb isn't going to notice it.

Regards, Steve Xx

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by _Sam_

Wont there be downtime during DNS Propagation?

There wouldn't be downtime, just keep both plans active until the propagation finishes. This way no matter what DNS information a person sees, they'll see your site-- either on your shared or your dedicated.

[eLIANT]

Originally Posted by slapshotw

...they'll see your site-- either on your shared or your dedicated.

Which is fine as long as the site is static: no databases, forums, etc.

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by eLIANT

Which is fine as long as the site is static: no databases, forums, etc.

If there's a database, i'd just point the database address from localhost to the new IP, and enable the old IP access to the database on the new server. Then people will see the same database no matter what server they end up on.

[daabomb2002]

i do have a mysql database. my site is a link directory www.linkdumptube.com. My domain names are hosted with Godaddy. Last time it took 3 days for my domain name from godaddy to propogate.

Originally Posted by eLIANT

Which is fine as long as the site is static: no databases, forums, etc.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by daabomb2002

i do have a mysql database. my site is a link directory www.linkdumptube.com. My domain names are hosted with Godaddy. Last time it took 3 days for my domain name from godaddy to propogate.

Domain names propagate in about 30 minutes now. If it took 3 days last time, then your ISP is caching DNS lookups. Expect it will take 3 days this time too.

[B0N35]

interesting is thier a way you can reset the ISP's caching? Cause it takes about 48hours on my ISP (Vodafone)

BTW How do i activate the quick reply box, I cant find any quick reply buttons.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by B0N35

interesting is thier a way you can reset the ISP's caching? Cause it takes about 48hours on my ISP (Vodafone)

You can't. However, you don't need to use your ISP's recursive DNS lookups.

http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/recursivedns/

There are also several free services:

http://www.opendns.com/

Originally Posted by B0N35

BTW How do i activate the quick reply box, I cant find any quick reply buttons.

No clue... I think you need to be logged in..

[gtgeorge]

Yep, spend hours on hold and talking to people who swear they don't cache dns or don't know what that is. Then after getting the right person that understands, hope and pray it doesn't revert to the old dns at another point in time.

Just my experience when I had problems with Comcast a few years back....I had to call and request the flush every couple days and finally just gave up and switched isps

[B0N35]

Originally Posted by Serra

You can't. However, you don't need to use your ISP's recursive DNS lookups.

http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/recursivedns/

There are also several free services:

http://www.opendns.com/




No clue... I think you need to be logged in..

Cheers For that Serra,

Er. yea my quick reply box says something about clicking one of the quick reply icons in the posts above to activate. I am logged in when I post, but thanks anyway

[daabomb2002]

so how does hostgator do this? do they just remove the hard drive from my current shared server,then add that hard drive to the semi dedicated server? Or do the use norton ghost to mirror my current shared server hard drive and then put that mirror onto the semi dedicated server hard drive?
And would all of this be able to be done when going from a shared server to a DEDICATED server if I chose a dedicated server instead of a semi dedicated?

Originally Posted by _Sam_

Yep.. hostgator can easily do this without you loosing data and your site will only be down while the DNS works it's magic

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by daabomb2002

so how does hostgator do this? do they just remove the hard drive from my current shared server,then add that hard drive to the semi dedicated server? Or do the use norton ghost to mirror my current shared server hard drive and then put that mirror onto the semi dedicated server hard drive?

No, those wouldn't really be optimal solutions. Especially that first one-- what would all the other people on the shared server think?

They will most likely scp or rsync a new cpanel full backup from your old plan to your new one, and restore the backup. This retains all settings.

And would all of this be able to be done when going from a shared server to a DEDICATED server if I chose a dedicated server instead of a semi dedicated?

Yes, it would be a similar process.

[daabomb2002]

so would my cpanel username and password remain the same if i upgraded from a shared server to semi dedicated?

Originally Posted by slapshotw

No, those wouldn't really be optimal solutions. Especially that first one-- what would all the other people on the shared server think?

They will most likely scp or rsync a new cpanel full backup from your old plan to your new one, and restore the backup. This retains all settings.



Yes, it would be a similar process.

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by daabomb2002

so would my cpanel username and password remain the same if i upgraded from a shared server to semi dedicated?

Yes, it would all be the same.

[esl]

Plan costs are located on the following page:
http://www.hostgator.com/shared.shtml

I thought HostGator just upgrades your account and transfers everything over to your Semi-Dedicated for you... have you asked them if they do that?

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by esl

I thought HostGator just upgrades your account and transfers everything over to your Semi-Dedicated for you... have you asked them if they do that?

That is what they do.

[daabomb2002]

cool thanks

Originally Posted by slapshotw

Yes, it would all be the same.