Postgres

[stonecold]

title explains it all. I am tired of saying it but once a month I will politely remind hostgator that it is something people want and damn it I need it.

[PFunk]

It would help to post this as a poll to get hard numbers for interested or not.

[stonecold]

i know there is anot a huge need for this as many would use mysql.

But there are functions in postgres that are not seen until mysql 5.0 so my options are get hostgator to install on what ever server i am on postgres a stable robust server with out support issues. Or install buggy mysql 5.

But hostgaotr simply refuses to listen to reasonl.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by stonecold

But hostgaotr simply refuses to listen to reasonl.

I can think of a few reason why they wouldn't install it. The techs at the help desk would need to know about Postgres, so if any questions come up, they would need to be able to answer them. That means that they would need to be trained and documentation provided for the first level support team.

I can't even begin to guess how much that would cost them. For what, another database? It just seems that it would be a huge project, with huge costs. To you, I'm sure, it just seems like flipping a switch or something, but I'd hate to be the guy that has to pay for it.

[stonecold]

Consider the following.

They can add it on a per request basis and could have the condition of not supporting it.

B. Like most if something goes wrong they have people at ThePlanet to take care of these things, like all the other host who have there servers around the globe in datacenters.

C. Hell they cant even answer a simple mysql question, so by your standard they should not offer mysql as they cant support it as they are numbskulls when it comes down to the nuts and bolts.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by stonecold

Consider the following.

They can add it on a per request basis and could have the condition of not supporting it.

But they do have to support it if they install it even once. If there is a problem, all of the techs have to be able to figure out it is a postgres problem.

Originally Posted by stonecold

B. Like most if something goes wrong they have people at ThePlanet to take care of these things, like all the other host who have there servers around the globe in datacenters.

I don't think the HG gets first line support from theplanet, I think they do their own first line support.

Originally Posted by stonecold

C. Hell they cant even answer a simple mysql question, so by your standard they should not offer mysql as they cant support it as they are numbskulls when it comes down to the nuts and bolts.

Answering stupid mysql questions isn't their job. Knowing if mysql brought down the server is their job.

[stonecold]

No, Knowing Mysql is there job. They should know why mysql is not working instead of scratching there head going I dont know?!?!

Postgres is amazingly stable even though people voice concerns with Postgres and cpanel apparently that has not been a issue for over a year as cpanel fixed there postgres package.

If they need Postgres training I am more than happy to packup my back servers and take the drive from the West cost of florida over to Boca, train them all and head back home on my dime. This account is for one of my smaller clients but also one of my favorites. If I did not have to change a a bunch of scripts around everytime I had to change a host then it would not be a big deal and I would go out and find another. But moving over to host gator was one of convience as as there previous host was shutting there doors and my preffered host was not accept new customers until they could get more servers to datacenter....

But it I figure by time I get done complaining they will either get postgres or mysql 5 will be marked as production ready and hopefully get updated here.

While I had to disabel some features do to the lack of postgres. I have managed with mysql4 i just not happy with it.

[ascheinberg]

Originally Posted by Serra

I can think of a few reason why they wouldn't install it. The techs at the help desk would need to know about Postgres, so if any questions come up, they would need to be able to answer them. That means that they would need to be trained and documentation provided for the first level support team.

It's not -- and if it is, it shouldn't be -- the job of a hosting company to provide database support like that. PostGres is a GREAT database, and it runs perfectly with cpanel (and phpPgAdmin). There's really no good reason to support it other than the fact that is it MUCH stricter than MySQL and it will certainly generate many many trouble tickets.

What Hostgator really should do is activate it for you if you request it (maybe by creating a duplicate for each hosting "plan" that includes Postgres ... I'm not all that familiar with cpanel administration... can it do per-user stuff?).

These days, there's no good reason not to support PGSQL unless you're trying to avoid trouble tickets.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by ascheinberg

These days, there's no good reason not to support PGSQL unless you're trying to avoid trouble tickets.

I'd guess that is a really good reason. If I owned HG, I wouldn't install something that would generate trouble tickets, when I could offer something that works almost as well, but is far less troublesome.

[calande]

Hostgator installed PostgreSQL 8.1 on my dedicated server, so they have the knowledge

[Serra]

Actually, having it installed on a dedicated server doesn't mean that they are staffed and equipped to answer thousands of questions about it.

[Dallas]

I'd like to second the fact that someone here wants postgresql... What is PHP5 w/o postgres... honestly...?


Thanks,
Dallas (the still-loyal customer of HostGator)

[ghost]

Hi,

I need PostgreSQL too. I use it as my main database system! I've been using PostgreSQL since 1998 !!

Thank you,

GHost