PHP5/SQL5 Upgrades

[Jordanlw]

Most likely after,
And they would not do LARGE scripts.
Eg. Forums.

[rmccown]

So it seems that my best course of action might be to add the php5 line into my .htaccess file:

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 .php

Will this work if I do a subdirectory at a time, instead of my whole site? Does this need to be in my public_html root, or can I put it in subdirs under it to test them out with?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[tinytimrob]

I will be very annoyed if after the upgrade to PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x my site no longer works. From internal testing on a test system, IPB 2.0 is incompatible with PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x and needs very very heavy modding to make it function - on top of that I have to modify ALL of the additional code I have written (and there's a LOT of it)

[cosmorphis]

I'm scared for the register globals option. My Web site plus a couple of my clients whom I have designed do not take in to account register globals is set to OFF by default. With PHP5, is host gator going to make it ON or OFF by default?

[Jordanlw]

You can change register globals with your own php.ini.

@rmccown
Yes,
Just add it to the particular Htaccess file for that directory,
Remember all directory's below will also get the changes from any Htaccess above them.

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by rmccown

So it seems that my best course of action might be to add the php5 line into my .htaccess file:

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 .php

Will this work if I do a subdirectory at a time, instead of my whole site? Does this need to be in my public_html root, or can I put it in subdirs under it to test them out with?

Inquiring minds want to know.

If you put that line in a .htaccess file in your public_html folder, it will be in effect in all subdirectories also.

If you do the same in a subdirectory it will be in effect in that subdirectory (and it's possible subdirectories) only.

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by tinytimrob

I will be very annoyed if after the upgrade to PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x my site no longer works. From internal testing on a test system, IPB 2.0 is incompatible with PHP 5.x and MySQL 5.x and needs very very heavy modding to make it function - on top of that I have to modify ALL of the additional code I have written (and there's a LOT of it)

If you read the previous posts in this thread (especially this: http://forums.hostgator.com/showpost...1&postcount=34) you see that you can use PHP4 in your site, you just need have a line:

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php4 .php

in the .htaccess file in the public_html directory.

[jono]

HI There Can you tell me how this is going to effect

Joomla Installs and Wordpress Installs?

I believe when my last webhost did this php 5 upgrade all my joomla websites and wordpress sites went down... they had to change something in the .htaccess or php.ini to get them working

It really was quite a pain as I literally saw every site of mine go down over night.. and unlike you nice folk.. they never sent a email out telling people they were upgrading which I must say I appreciate that you guys do that it keeps us informed of what is coming..

So any ideas how this is going to effect joomla, wordpress

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by jono

HI There Can you tell me how this is going to effect

Joomla Installs and Wordpress Installs?

Joomla works just fine with PHP5 and MySQL5.

[kmaw]

Originally Posted by jono

So any ideas how this is going to effect joomla, wordpress

Both are compatible -- I'm running both fine.

Only problem will be if you have really old components or plugins -- they may not work.

ie the original Events component I used for Joomla didn't work with MySQL 5 -- but it hasn't been developed since 2005, you can't expect it to work, really... I found an alternative.

[fuzzfree]

automatically upgrading your code to a problem-free, stable and PHP5 compatible version

Then I should opt out from this automatic upgrade - having another one touching modified versions of oscommerce and postnuke apps is not the best for me

About MySQL5 : make sure you do not enable strict mode and have a similar behavior as MySQL4 settings.

[rmccown]

Originally Posted by fuzzfree

Then I should opt out from this automatic upgrade - having another one touching modified versions of oscommerce and postnuke apps is not the best for me

Same here on my site.

I tried to use the opt-out link, but its asking for a server for my credentials, and I have no clue which one to select. NONE of them look familiar or anything,and just randomly choosing one fails the credential check.

[ethical]

gatordave

a number of people have asked about oscommerce, a lot of people use it so you best address the issue since it will create a lot of unhappy customers if it dies not work.

will you accomodate these changes discussed here:

http://www.alexjudd.com/?p=4

please advise

[nielsencl]

I'm a smaller reseller and I could only read about 2 pages of posts before my eyes started hurting. First, I respect what you are doing and understand a little of the big, complicated job it is to roll our upgrades like this. I only wish to suggest the following:

1) I think it would be best if you could allow us to make site by site switches to PHP5 as we have time to do so and test the results. This places a burden on us, but also give us the control. Perhaps putting something in the htaccess would keep us at php4 until we are ready? I understand it may not be this easy and no reply is needed to the suggestion.

2) If it makes the most sense to just roll out the upgrade on a server at a time, I beg you to provide as much warning as possible before it happens, and a notification when the upgrade is completed.

We are resposible to 10s or 100s of clients for the operation of their sites. We need you to make this as painless as possible for us, and while the technical issues may not have an easy answer, it will be hard to understand problems in communications. :-)

A satisifed reseller,
Chris Nielsen

[willow1872]

Ive opted out because i know CubeCart has issues with MySQL 5 although php5 works perfectly.

I would like to know if there are any security issues with continuing to use MySQL 4?

[rmccown]

Originally Posted by rmccown

Same here on my site.

I tried to use the opt-out link, but its asking for a server for my credentials, and I have no clue which one to select. NONE of them look familiar or anything,and just randomly choosing one fails the credential check.

Nevermind, figured it out..

[zmiservices]

Some of you may understand this, how to repair but I don't. When I had issues with another host due to slowness and downtime I moved 2 modded vb latest versions over to HG. (I could not do this, GT did it)

I haven't seen an answer yet will vb's be effected? Should I opt out? What should I do?

Seems I am on commander.websitewelcome.com and 9f.6b.344a.static.theplanet.com

[gmltw]

I have seen several people ask about OSCommerce but I have not seen an answer yet. Does anyone know?

What about Zen-Cart?

I would also like to know how to find out what servers I am using.

My IPs are 70.87.237.7 and 70.87.77.7 .

When I follow the link to do a reverse ip look up http://remote.12dt.com/ it says

"7.4d.5746.static.theplanet.com"Top Level Domain: "theplanet.com"

?????????????!!!!! Who the #@!$ is the planet.com?

When I follow to the who is info I get:

Server Name: THEPLANET.COM.MARINAMARTINMUSIC.COM
IP Address: 67.18.219.82
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com

Domain Name: THEPLANET.COM
Registrar: THE PLANET INTERNET SERVICES, INC.
Whois Server: whois.theplanet.com
Referral URL: http://www.theplanet.com
Name Server: NS1.THEPLANET.COM
Name Server: NS2.THEPLANET.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 03-jan-2008
Creation Date: 11-mar-1999
Expiration Date: 11-mar-2017

The other IP is much the same.

70.87.237.7 resolves to
"7.ed.5746.static.theplanet.com"
Top Level Domain: "theplanet.com"

and

Server Name: THEPLANET.COM.MARINAMARTINMUSIC.COM
IP Address: 67.18.219.82
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com

Domain Name: THEPLANET.COM
Registrar: THE PLANET INTERNET SERVICES, INC.
Whois Server: whois.theplanet.com
Referral URL: http://www.theplanet.com
Name Server: NS1.THEPLANET.COM
Name Server: NS2.THEPLANET.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 03-jan-2008
Creation Date: 11-mar-1999
Expiration Date: 11-mar-2017

Can someone tell me what is going on here and how to find out which servers I am on?

Thanks,

gmltw

[Jordanlw]

Theplanet.com
Is the Datacenter HG uses.

[rmccown]

Originally Posted by gmltw

I have seen several people ask about OSCommerce but I have not seen an answer yet. Does anyone know?

What about Zen-Cart?

I added the php5 .htaccess line to my Zen Cart directory, and it seems to work ok.

It's important to note that PHP4 is no longer actively maintained by the php developers. This means far fewer bug and security fixes (if any). I know change is painful sometimes, but as seen on their main page (bold red is my emphasis):

PHP 4.4.8 Released

[03-Jan-2008] The PHP development team would like to announce the immediate availability of PHP 4.4.8. It continues to improve the security and the stability of the 4.4 branch and all users are strongly encouraged to upgrade to it as soon as possible. This release wraps up all the outstanding patches for the PHP 4.4 series, and is therefore the last normal PHP 4.4 release. If necessary, releases to address security issues could be made until 2008-08-08.

PHP 4 end of life announcement
[13-Jul-2007]

Today it is exactly three years ago since PHP 5 has been released. In those three years it has seen many improvements over PHP 4. PHP 5 is fast, stable & production-ready and as PHP 6 is on the way, PHP 4 will be discontinued.

The PHP development team hereby announces that support for PHP 4 will continue until the end of this year only. After 2007-12-31 there will be no more releases of PHP 4.4. We will continue to make critical security fixes available on a case-by-case basis until 2008-08-08. Please use the rest of this year to make your application suitable to run on PHP 5.

For documentation on migration for PHP 4 to PHP 5, we would like to point you to our migration guide. There is additional information available in the PHP 5.0 to PHP 5.1 and PHP 5.1 to PHP 5.2 migration guides as well.

As such, it is extremely likely (almost guaranteed) that we will completely phase out PHP4 support on or before August 8th 2008, so opting out of the PHP5 changeover now just buys you more time. You should still look at what's necessary to get things working for you on PHP5 (if anything). Most software works fine, and we'll try to work with you if it doesn't. [/B]We're keeping PHP4 around for now, and trying to give everyone enough heads-up notice to test their sites in PHP5 to make sure they work properly, but [B]eventually PHP4 support will be completely phased out. This is not because we don't like php4, but simply because it's no longer going to be supported or maintained by it's developers in the near future. PHP4 is at the end of it's life, and PHP6 is not that far away.

[gtgeorge]

Originally Posted by mallee

Some of you may understand this, how to repair but I don't. When I had issues with another host due to slowness and downtime I moved 2 modded vb latest versions over to HG. (I could not do this, GT did it)

I haven't seen an answer yet will vb's be effected? Should I opt out? What should I do?

Seems I am on commander.websitewelcome.com and 9f.6b.344a.static.theplanet.com

I don't think you should have a problem. I am sure HG considers VB a commonly used script and would fix what may arise. There would be more concern for any of the mods.
Also opting out won't have anything to do with the mysql upgrade I don't beleive.

So you could change to php5 in .htaccess first to test

[rmccown]

I'm only opting out of the automatic update, I'll do the changes myself, and test using the .htaccess AddHandler. I'd just like to make the changes myself, since my site consists of various heavily modified packages, and any automated 'fix' would probably 'break' instead.

[newview]

I just received the email about these upgrades . . . and I've got major trepidations, to say the least.

I had major issues when I first signed up with HG and had all my sites migrated over . . . broken phpnuke & phplist scripts being the majority of the problems.

I'm VERY concerned that this upgrade will break something on one or all of the 6 domains I have hosted on HG, and I'll end up playing support ticket tag over the following weeks trying to get them repaired . . . all the while having my supervisors on my back about broken web sites.

Would it be acceptable to open a support ticket to "pre-screen" my domains to have them checked prior to the upgrade?

[Jaycee29]

I am the site developer for a client who is hosted on hostgator, and I have a couple of questions about this upgrade.

1) Will short_open_tag be turned on by default on PHP5? I have quite a few scripts I've written with <? ?> declaring the PHP code sections.

2) If 'no' to the first question, how can I turn it on in my client's account? I saw someone mention that directory-level php.ini files are allowed. Would I just create one in the account's root directory with short_open_tag = 'on'?

Thanks for all your help and good luck with the upgrades.