PHP5/SQL5 Upgrades

[dynamics]

Great to hear about the upgrade, just wanted to check on a couple of things.

Will we be notified of the upgrade dates and times for each server?

I'd like to give my clients some warning about possible downtime and also be around when it's happening so I can check a few sites for any problems.

Is this going to have any impact on htaccess files?

On another server that had a similar upgrade done, addtype stopped working. I know it shouldn't be used (should be addhandler) but it broke a few sites that were using it.

Thanks

[RonC]

I am on the reseller server Expedition.

I have a few questions regarding the upgrade:

Will PHP4 still be available after the upgrade by using this line in the .htaccess file?

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php4 php

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Will switching the environment using the same AddHandler line like this:

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 php

create an accurate test environment so we can test existing scripts prior to the upgrade?

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In the PHP5 environment register_globals is off by default will we still be able to alter this by using a php.ini file placed in the folder with the php files?

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If not would we use this instead in the .htaccess file?

php_flag register_globals on

Thank you

Ron

[niaoudev]

on dedicated servers will be able to still have php4 running e.g. for specific subdomains? and move gradually to php5?

e.g. by adding AddHandler application/x-httpd-php4 php


We have many homegrown scripts and it would be difficult to test all of them until March 8th.

[HackNslash]

I'm on a dedicated box and am really not happy about the move to php5 or mysql5 without testing first...

Can someone confirm that if I add the line

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 php

to the root htaccess file this will put the site into a php5 environment?

Also whats the benefits of php5 as php4 seems to working fine is there issues with 4.

I run a vbulletin forum and need to test the forum addons and scripts before moving over.

HackNslash

[Kostas]

Does anyone know if MAMBO 4.5.2.1 and Joomla 1.0.14 work with MySQL 5?

Thank you.

[GatorDaveC]

Originally Posted by HackNslash

I'm on a dedicated box and am really not happy about the move to php5 or mysql5 without testing first...

Can someone confirm that if I add the line

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 php

to the root htaccess file this will put the site into a php5 environment?

Also whats the benefits of php5 as php4 seems to working fine is there issues with 4.

I run a vbulletin forum and need to test the forum addons and scripts before moving over.

HackNslash

These upgrades are only going to be on Shared and Reseller servers. For Dedicated users, upgrading to PHP5/MySQL5 is completely optional.

[CT Internet]

Will it be possible to revert back to php/mysql 4 if we participate in the auto upgrade and find some horrible errors happen on a site after the upgrade?

[gtgeorge]

I am starting to understand HG's old reasoning for not notifying customers after see what is happening to this official post/thread to keep users informed.

Dedicated users have control over how their box is set up and maintained and need not worry. PHP4 & mysql 4 is reaching the end of it's support life and needs to be upgraded.

[GatorDaveC]

Originally Posted by RonC

I am on the reseller server Expedition.

I have a few questions regarding the upgrade:

Will PHP4 still be available after the upgrade by using this line in the .htaccess file?

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php4 php

---------------------------------------

Will switching the environment using the same AddHandler line like this:

AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 php

create an accurate test environment so we can test existing scripts prior to the upgrade?

---------------------------------------

In the PHP5 environment register_globals is off by default will we still be able to alter this by using a php.ini file placed in the folder with the php files?

---------------------------------------

If not would we use this instead in the .htaccess file?

php_flag register_globals on

Thank you

Ron

Hi Ron,
Yes for at least a little while, we will keep PHP4 on the servers, but as a secondary environment. To use PHP4 you would simply use "AddHandler application/x-httpd-php4 php".

All of the php settings would be in a php.ini file, since it still will be a SuEXEC environment. The PHP5 environment will be almost identical to our current PHP5 environment, so basically if your scripts work on there, you shouldn't have any problems.

[minimalnet]

his upgrade process is going to be as automated as possible, but we understand that some customers may wish to handle upgrades themselves. All servers and accounts will be upgraded to PHP5 and MySQL 5, but if you wish to handle the upgrading of any incompatible scripts yourself, please visit ( http://www.hostgator.com/php5opt-out/ ). By authenticating your login credentials on this page, you confirm that you wish leave any incompatible common scripts as they are.

One question about this, this mean that when I added my web to this list I will not need upgrade nothing, not?, that I will continue with my current php and mysql version no?.

I have read now again the paragraph and do not know if I understood it well earlier. The problems with the english..

[CT Internet]

Originally Posted by Kostas

Does anyone know if MAMBO 4.5.2.1 and Joomla 1.0.14 work with MySQL 5?

I am not sure about Mambo - but Joomla will definitely work so I would expect Mambo to work as well.

[GatorDaveC]

Originally Posted by gtgeorge

I am starting to understand HG's old reasoning for not notifying customers after see what is happening to this official post/thread to keep users informed.

Dedicated users have control over how their box is set up and maintained and need not worry. PHP4 & mysql 4 is reaching the end of it's support life and needs to be upgraded.

Hey George,
I personally think having good communication is key for keeping the clients happy. This update is no where near as big as the PHPSuEXEC migrations we did several months ago, but at least having this forum post will allow users with similar problems get their issues fixed faster.

Having this forum post here, will give a lot more user feedback when we start the migrations, what if there was a script that we completely overlooked?... Yes I am going to be testing several popular scripts, and try to automate the process as best as possible, but its likely that there could be minor issues. So having clients that post here saying "Look I have a problem with some script after the update" will allow us to take a look and get the problem resolved.

We have a lot of newbie clients, but there are a lot of keeners out there you guys/gals know who you are, and I am hoping for some input from them during the migrations.

Sorry for rambling on...

[minimalnet]

GatorDaveC answer me please, I am every moment more confused :S

[GatorDaveC]

Originally Posted by minimalnet

GatorDaveC answer me please, I am every moment more confused :S

About the opt-out? The Opt-out means that your account will be untouched. Basically, if we find any problems with certain script, we will not try to scan your account for the particular files, to fix them.

You account will be using PHP5, we just won't fix anything on your account with our automated program.

Does that make sense now?

[minimalnet]

Originally Posted by GatorDaveC

About the opt-out? The Opt-out means that your account will be untouched. Basically, if we find any problems with certain script, we will not try to scan your account for the particular files, to fix them.

You account will be using PHP5, we just won't fix anything on your account with our automated program.

Does that make sense now?

Oh my god!!!, then how i remove my host from this list?, I I understood all bad

[Jordanlw]

If you sign that then they WILL NOT convert any of YOUR scripts to work with PHP5 & MySQL5

EDIT: Beat me to it Dave

[minimalnet]

Originally Posted by Jordanlw

If you sign that then they WILL NOT convert any of YOUR scripts to work with PHP5 & MySQL5

EDIT: Beat me to it Dave

Yes but i will not have assistance if I have some problem, I understood bad all before and now I am in this list. All that happens to me by the english

[ayazahmed786]

I know for a fact my websites wont work on php5, that is why i am on gatorhost because of php4.

Please do take a look at my websites on my server.

ns741.hostgator.com
ns742.hostgator.com

[Jordanlw]

So when does conversion "START"?
Feel free to upgrade "gator321sql5" first ,
Im in need of PHP5, cPanel says its installed yet my scripts don't.

[commando]

I know for sure some of the hand written SQL on my website isn't compatible with MySql 5, but works fine on 4. Can you please give us an exact date for the changeover so we can work to specific deadlines.

I'd also like to know how the changeover's going to work, I run a busy website with plenty of database writes, so it'll have to be shut down, the database migrated, and then started again and tested.

[kalexan]

What about OSCommerce scripts? It is almost sure that they won't work after upgrading...

[::Quick::]

Originally Posted by GatorDaveC

About the opt-out? The Opt-out means that your account will be untouched. Basically, if we find any problems with certain script, we will not try to scan your account for the particular files, to fix them.

You account will be using PHP5, we just won't fix anything on your account with our automated program.

Does that make sense now?

Well then maybe you should explain that on the opt-out page since the Opt-Out page is a bit confusing...

[Srirangan]

I applaud the updates.

By authenticating your login credentials on this page, you confirm that you wish leave any incompatible common scripts as they are.

Common scripts? What do you mean by common scripts?

Being a developer, I do know that all my scripts are PHP5 & MySQL5 compatible. Plus I wouldn't want another developer to mess around with the configurations.

So should someone like me do the PHP5 opt out?

Thanks,

[afterfive]

Greetings,
I am always a proponent of forward moving thinking and I believe this upgrade will be a positive change. I have half a dozen clients currently using oscommerce. Has this upgrade been tested for oscommerce users?

[dynamics]

Originally Posted by dynamics

Great to hear about the upgrade, just wanted to check on a couple of things.

Will we be notified of the upgrade dates and times for each server?

I'd like to give my clients some warning about possible downtime and also be around when it's happening so I can check a few sites for any problems.

I'm seeing other questions answered but not this one. Did I miss something?