NO MORE semi-dedicated servers with HG

[L146705]

Actually the SemiDedicated account is the same price. $75. I know because I currently have it. Surely hope my current plan isn't phased out from under me. I don't have the cashflow for a Dedicated yet nor the technical know how or inclination or time to learn for an unmanaged server.

I'm in the same position, what are my options regarding viewing the specs of the semi dedicated(eg bandwidth allowed). Also what similar packages do hostgator have?

[gtgeorge]

The semi-dedicated is still on the order form people. Just as the unmanaged dedicated is. I would ticket sales and see what the response is or better yet, someone wanting one should click order and look for it under the dropdown.

NEVER NEVER NEVER trust chat support for a definitive answer!

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by L146705

I'm in the same position, what are my options regarding viewing the specs of the semi dedicated(eg bandwidth allowed). Also what similar packages do hostgator have?

Your account's bandwidth and diskspace limits you see in your account's cPanel.

[L146705]

Your account's bandwidth and diskspace limits you see in your account's cPanel.

thanks, found them. Do any of you know if the unmanaged server comes with cpanel or any software installed, also where would I find instructions on how to set it all up?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by L146705

thanks, found them. Do any of you know if the unmanaged server comes with cpanel or any software installed, also where would I find instructions on how to set it all up?

Yes the server comes with cPanel/WHM

and there is info on how to set it up on these forums and at www.cpanel.net/docs/whm

[ghpk]

A post by Staff says that server gets setup using same initialization scripts as they do to a managed ones.

here's the post with specs http://forums.hostgator.com/showpost...31&postcount=6

you can drop a email to sales@hostgator to get the all the available options.

[phatchopolis]

Originally Posted by L146705

I'm in the same position, what are my options regarding viewing the specs of the semi dedicated(eg bandwidth allowed). Also what similar packages do hostgator have?

The Semi plan has 25gb of storage and 500gb of bandwidth.

[Tomasz]

OK< I emailed sales and here is what you get for $75:

HostGator Unmanaged Dedicated - $75 a month
P4 2.4 ghz.
80 gigs storage, 1,500 gigs of bandwidth
1 gig of Ram
5 IP addresses
Full root access

So this is the least powerful server (Basic one - http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated.shtml).

When I asked about the price for an addional hard drive (for backup), it appears there's no such option because the person told me to look at the managed dedicated servers in that case. So I'm not very impressed with that, I must say.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Tomasz

HostGator Unmanaged Dedicated - $75 a month
P4 2.4 ghz.
80 gigs storage, 1,500 gigs of bandwidth
1 gig of Ram
5 IP addresses
Full root access

The specs are getting better and better

[ghpk]

however with unmanaged changing, should we expect that managed dedicated server specs can change in near future sssshhhhhhhhh

[gwyneth]

Originally Posted by _Sam_

The specs are getting better and better

I was thinking the same thing.

Originally Posted by ghpk

however with unmanaged changing, should we expect that managed dedicated server specs can change in near future sssshhhhhhhhh

They don't have much to do with each other. The specs for the smallest unmanaged server are not even listed, but if anything you've got it in reverse order. The smallest unmanaged servers are probably the "leftovers" from the managed bunch, and if the latter gets better, the availability of equipment for the smallest unmanaged one may change for the better.

[mirko_h]

they kicked me today. for nothing i suppose. they don not want semi-dedi-customers any more! and i paid them almost 700 bucks . wow, what a service.

[GvilleRick]

Since your other post is in the Customer Reviews section where no one but staff can respond I will post here. You said that you have not received word from your ticket. Make sure that you wait on the ticket response and don't keep posting there to ask about an update. Replying to a ticket will bup it back to the bottom of the queue. You could contact Live Support instead and ask if they can check on the status. At least they may be able to tell you whether it is an Abuse issue, Billing, or something else.

I would doubt that it has anything to do with some conspiracy to get rid of Semi-Ded users.

[gwyneth]

Originally Posted by GvilleRick

I would doubt that it has anything to do with some conspiracy to get rid of Semi-Ded users.

I've always been fond of you, too, Rick. (Psst: especially that you didn't say there isn't a conspiracy, just that mirko_h's suspension isn't part of it..)

[Sam]

Originally Posted by gwyneth

I was thinking the same thing.

I hope they start giving out the dualcores or xeon servers for $75

[GatorWesley]

Originally Posted by Tomasz

When I asked about the price for an addional hard drive (for backup), it appears there's no such option because the person told me to look at the managed dedicated servers in that case. So I'm not very impressed with that, I must say.

You can order a backup drive on an unmanaged:
https://secure.hostgator.com/drive.php

[codesight]

How about you give us the specs for your HDs and we can purchase them and send them to you? An 80GB for $200 is quite outlandish, considering I just bought a 250GB for $86.00 shipped.

[ghpk]

Originally Posted by codesight

How about you give us the specs for your HDs and we can purchase them and send them to you? An 80GB for $200 is quite outlandish, considering I just bought a 250GB for $86.00 shipped.

Mail In Hardware, its NOT allowed on most of the providers.

When you buy a HDD, the price also includes the cost of getting it inside your box, cost to cover its replacement if needed and any cost which is needed to get it up and running, and kept running.

[gtgeorge]

Originally Posted by codesight

How about you give us the specs for your HDs and we can purchase them and send them to you? An 80GB for $200 is quite outlandish, considering I just bought a 250GB for $86.00 shipped.

Does that $86 also include the price to install it in the data center...OK send the HD in and then pay them $200 to install it Sorry are you going to start taking steaks in to the local steakhouse and have them cook one for you too!

[codesight]

Originally Posted by gtgeorge

Does that $86 also include the price to install it in the data center...OK send the HD in and then pay them $200 to install it Sorry are you going to start taking steaks in to the local steakhouse and have them cook one for you too!

it takes about 5 minutes to install a HD... a format can be done by the user...

5 minutes at even a $100/hour, still inflated...

i'm just saying, the pricing is inflated for what you get, i know it wouldn't happen, but to charge over 100% markup just plain sucks...

and not offering a secondary HD on the other plans is lame... i'd much rather have 2 80GB on one of the lower plans than 1 250GB

by them doing that, it's another way to slowly pull more money out of you, you either buy a second hard drive, lease it, or go for the more expensive priced plan

[codesight]

Originally Posted by gtgeorge

Does that $86 also include the price to install it in the data center...OK send the HD in and then pay them $200 to install it Sorry are you going to start taking steaks in to the local steakhouse and have them cook one for you too!

and yes... there are places that allow this

and there are places that will sell you a steak and you can cook it yourself for a reduced price

willingness to adapt to different norms is what makes a business stand out (i'm not saying HG is doing things wrong by any means or i'd be sitting pretty like brent, just saying it's nice to see some NON industry standards once in awhile)

[gwyneth]

Originally Posted by codesight

i'm just saying, the pricing is inflated for what you get, i know it wouldn't happen, but to charge over 100% markup just plain sucks...

A practice you scrupulously avoid with your own customers?

As Henry Ford is supposed to have said, writing a check to the factory machining service that charged .05 for a bolt and almost $30,000 to (essentially) intall it, you're not paying for the bolt or even the labor to put that bolt in, you're paying for the knowledge that kept the million-dollar factory from downtime.

[codesight]

I don't typically purchase some hardware for them for say $50 and turn around and charge them $50 more for it to install it (if it only takes me 5 minutes).

Yes, I know you need to make money... and yes, there are analogies for everything related to this, but to keep it like this and not provide something as simple as another HD to the packages seems lame, like I said. There "were" two HDs on the second lowest package until they "upgraded" the packages. But as stated, having one 250GB is worse, in my opinion than two 80GB drives. In the end, it'd be cheaper for them to have two 125GBs on the server than one 250GB drives.

Not saying anything will change, and I obviously understand people need to make money, HG included, it just sucks, in my case, when you think you are going in the right direction, then it changes for what they think is the better, but I don't agree.

[TeeJa]

True story:
Years ago I was in the electronics servicing business. After one experience with a customer, (just trying to please), I excepted his unit in for repair. He had the part with him, charged him the normal labor, but I made one stipulation, NO WARRANTY. And it was written on his invoice. 2 weeks later client comes in with the same problem.. Yep, you guessed it.. Told him his new part he bought failed and how much it would cost to fix, total parts & labor. I almost had to call the cops to have him removed from the premises, he thought I should have covered the warranty. This happened in 1973. Needless to say that was the last time I had a weak moment in the next 25 years until I retired from it.