Magento shopping cart

[ben347]

I suggest Magento shopping cart be made available in Hostgator - like osCommerce / ZenCart / CubeCart whereby it can be installed / uninstalled by just clicking icons.

[Keith W]

Your asking/suggesting to the wrong people, Hostgator have no control over what programs get included as "one" click installs with cPanel/fantastico

[quietFinn]

Magento requires InnoDB storage engine for MySQL, and as it has been discussed elsewhere in these forums it's not currently available in HostGator shared or reseller servers.

[jfigura]

Magento requires InnoDB storage engine for MySQL, and as it has been discussed elsewhere in these forums it's not currently available in HostGator shared or reseller servers.

Really? Because last evening I installed Open Goo which requires InnoDB, which is supported and I believe included in MySQL. Works just fine.

[gwyneth]

Originally Posted by quietFinn

Magento requires InnoDB storage engine for MySQL, and as it has been discussed elsewhere in these forums it's not currently available in HostGator shared or reseller servers.

Originally Posted by jfigura

Really? Because last evening I installed Open Goo which requires InnoDB, which is supported and I believe included in MySQL. Works just fine.

There's a difference between 'supported' and 'included'.

A few older HG servers have InnodDB; it's possible you're on one. If you're not, it's perilous to expect an app requiring it will always "work just fine".

For a discussion of the issue specifically relating to Magento, see Magento - Search - eCommerce Software for Growth (innodb) .

[sparksue]

Hmmm what abt Prestashop program? It will be great that we can have one-click install for this e-cart as well.

[jadog]

I want Magento Support here. You guys are awesome hosting company but lack of innoDB is getting me down

Due to problems in the past with InnoDB table corruption, most likely due to the setup of our servers and the large volume of traffic they receive on a daily basis, it was decided that it would cause more problems than it would solve to have it enabled for every customer. At that time, the people who make these decisions chose to discontinue support for InnoDB on all new servers. Older servers will continue to offer it, but currently there is not a way to request to have your account on an old server. You may get lucky and placed on one, but most new customers get put on new servers.

[envygeeks]

Originally Posted by GatorThomas

Due to problems in the past with InnoDB table corruption, most likely due to the setup of our servers and the large volume of traffic they receive on a daily basis, it was decided that it would cause more problems than it would solve to have it enabled for every customer.

It was neither, it was your users not knowing what the hell InnoDB was built for. The fact of the matter is, InnoDB was built to address the issues of high traffic sites by bringing in Row Locking over Table Locking thus eliminating the errors often caused on high traffic sites who read databases constantly. On a normal site, the performance of InnoDB would be far less then that of MyISAM but on a super high traffic site such as Hostgator or even a few of my clients sites, InnoDB would rape the performance of MyISAM because of Row Locking. You were getting corruption a lot more because you are locking rows and not tables, thus receieving tons more overhead, and people haven't learned that they can execute a PHP or Perl script that does OPTIMIZE TABLE_NAME by Cron Job daily. So in the end it was really your users not knowing how to actually work a database that ruined it :P. These are the same users who run a site, and have never optimised their tables outside of the scope of Hostgators automatic optimise (if you guys have that) and if hostgator doesn't, then never actually optimised their sites databases.

[renate]

Maybe you guys should let your on-line support team know about this cause i asked about running Magento about a month ago and was told 'no problem, no issues, go ahead....'

Guess i'm glad i didn't............
Renate

[alemcherry]

Originally Posted by envygeeks

It was neither, it was your users not knowing what the hell InnoDB was built for. The fact of the matter is, InnoDB was built to address the issues of high traffic sites by bringing in Row Locking over Table Locking thus eliminating the errors often caused on high traffic sites who read databases constantly. On a normal site, the performance of InnoDB would be far less then that of MyISAM but on a super high traffic site such as Hostgator or even a few of my clients sites, InnoDB would rape the performance of MyISAM because of Row Locking. You were getting corruption a lot more because you are locking rows and not tables, thus receieving tons more overhead, and people haven't learned that they can execute a PHP or Perl script that does OPTIMIZE TABLE_NAME by Cron Job daily. So in the end it was really your users not knowing how to actually work a database that ruined it :P. These are the same users who run a site, and have never optimised their tables outside of the scope of Hostgators automatic optimise (if you guys have that) and if hostgator doesn't, then never actually optimised their sites databases.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, envygeeks. Beyond the transactions support, I didnt really know the difference between the two.

[semaphorian]

Originally Posted by ben347

I suggest Magento shopping cart be made available in Hostgator - like osCommerce / ZenCart / CubeCart whereby it can be installed / uninstalled by just clicking icons.

Zen cart is inbuilt function providing by many web hosting company and Magento is simple to install but very difficult to make it for your own requirement.

Either you need to know programming language or you should hire a programmer to make it complete.


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Magento shopping cart

[renriq02]

why not just have a separate servers for this..and charge a 'little bit' more?

so you wont have to worry about corrupting everything

[bgalvan]

thumbs up for magento!... I use it... from a user/store owner perspective...Simply awesome

[gwyneth]

For the newest development, see this thread:

Magento hosting

[kmaw]

The main reason I opted to use x-cart instead of Magento was the cost of Magento's custom development. Migration of a cart from cs-cart to x-cart cost us approx $2,500... Magento quoted $8,000-9,000.

Secondary was the innodb thing..