IP Address

Will Host Gator provide extra IP address for the host if needed?

Cheers

[GatorJay]

You can get an IP address for 2 dollars a month on every plan.

The Swamp plan comes with a free IP address with the purchase of an SSL.

[Guerrero]

here is any adventages in having separate IP ?
performance?

[aaronprather]

GatorJay:

I have a Baby account, and was interested in adding 2 more IP addresses. The sales department insists I need 3 Baby accounts to accomplish this.

Is it possible to add IP addresses to my Baby account (or any web hosting account) without purchasing separate accounts? Do I need to upgrade to at least a Swamp account to add IP addresses?

I hope you can clear this up for me.

Thanks.

Aaron

[Stef]

Aaron,

you need Swamp at least to add more IP addresses (or several Baby accounts like Sales said).

Stef.

[aaronprather]

Just to clairify, I could upgrade my account to Swamp and add 2 additional IP addresses for approx. $20/month?

Aaron

[esl]

If you had a Swamp shared hosting account with 2 extra dedicated IP addresses the total cost should be $18.95 USD.

$14.95 Swamp hosting
$2 dedicated IP
$2 dedicated IP
---------------
$18.95 USD total

[aaronprather]

Ok... I'm having a hard time getting a straight answer from support regarding adding IPs to an account. Every response from them (from different people) either doesn't directly answer my question or gives me conflicting information.

Here is how it went:

Me: I currently have a Baby account and I wish to upgrade to a Swamp account and add 2 IP addresses, so I can put my domains on 3 different C-block IPs. Please help me or tell me how to accomplish this.

Support Person 1: Unfortunately you would need 3 seprate hosting accounts to have each website on a different class c IP.
Thank you.

Me: What class of IP are the add-on IP addresses?

Support Person 2: Cannot garuntee about the exact ip address. But if you want they all would be diffrent C Class.

Me: I'm confused, I was told earlier that I would need three separate accounts for different C-Class IPs, and you are telling me I can do this with one account. Do I need to contact support directly to make this happen, so they can configure my account manually?

Support Person 3: Its not possible to assign a dedicated IP to an addon domain or subdomain. If you need a dedicated/static IP for your accounts then you need to go for separate shared accounts or you can go for a reseller account and create separate accounts from your reseller WHM.


From what I can see Support Person 1 says I need 3 separate accounts to get 3 different C-class IPs, Support Person 2 suggests I can get it with one account if I want, and Support person 3 suggests that IPs cannot be added to a shared account.

I understand that it may not be possible to add different C-class IPs to a shared hosting account, but the lack of a clear response from Support conserns and confuses me.

I will clarify the IP issue so you know how it is done.

You may purchase 1 dedicated IP address per shared "account"

If you want more than 1 IP address then you have to have a reseller account.

Dedicated IP's "CANNOT" be assigned to an addon domain.

If you want more than one domain to have a "DEDICATED IP" then you must make an account for that domain via your "Reseller WHM setup".

I am sorry for any mis information that anyone has recieved about this and I hope this answers your questions reguarding this issue.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by aaronprather

I understand that it may not be possible to add different C-class IPs to a shared hosting account, but the lack of a clear response from Support conserns and confuses me.

You are confused. You need to go back and READ what the techs are telling you and not what you want to hear. What they are saying is consistant, given the apples and oranges questions you are asking and keep in mind that they answer questions based on what you ask, not on the type of account that you have, unless you specifically tell them. Look at your question:

Me: What class of IP are the add-on IP addresses?

Support Person 2: Cannot garuntee about the exact ip address. But if you want they all would be diffrent C Class.

Poor support person 2 answer your question correctly. Add-on IP addresses can be class C if you want them to be.

The next logical question is, ok, can you add those to my baby account. The answer is No, but you didn't ask that. You asked what class the IPs were.

GatorKrisC summed it up nicely for you, but the response doesn't really get to the heart of your question.

I think you are getting totally hung up on the wrong part of the answer. There is NO advantage to having different Class-C IP addresses for different sites (when they are all the same site). The search engines all know to do a geographic lookup on the IP to determine the location of the IP and not use the IP address alone. You can't make the search engines believe that you have 3 different websites, when you only have one, with three different IP addresses. If you wish to do that, you will need to get three different hosting accounts and three different providers, in different physical locations around the country. Then it doesn't matter if they have a dedicated IP or a shared IP.

The only reason you would need 3 IP addresses is if you need three different SSL certificates. In that case, you would need 1 reseller account or 3 shared accounts.

So, let me ask you the REAL question. What are you trying to do?

BTW: all my IPs are class-A. I've never been assiged a class C...

[aaronprather]

Kris:
Thanks, you have cleared things up for me.

Serra:
The problem I had with emailing support, was evey response was from a different person, and it dosen't appear to me that their subseqent responses took note of my previous corespondance on that support ticket. The second support person's response was the one that really through me through a loop. Looking at it now SP1 & SP2 answers make sense, BUT it would have been much simpler if I communicated with the same person throughout that ticket.

[aaronprather]

OOPS... ^^^^ I ment SP1 & SP3 responses makes sense in retrospect ^^^

[Serra]

Yes, the support people don't read ANYTHING. Some times not even the question you are asking.

[tezza42]

My first question; just out of curiosity... What's the difference between a class A and class C IP?

Secondly; I came to this thread in the hope of finding some help with regards to dedicated IP's. I recently purchased a .DE domain name from Godaddy and have tried to transfer it to my shared hosting server at Hostgator but keep getting a failed email.
I have purchased several domain names before from godaddy with different domain name country extension and never had a problem transferring them to Hostgator, but for whatever reason I can't seem to get the .DE one to switch.
Support just told me to buy a dedicated IP which, doesn't really shed much light on anything.

I have seen the name serra pop-up a few times on these forums and you seem to know your stuff! Maybe you can help?

Cheers!

[vtrain]

Originally Posted by tezza42

My first question; just out of curiosity... What's the difference between a class A and class C IP?
[snip]

An explanation can be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classfu...k#Class_ranges

but maybe you have a specific doubt and want to post here?

Vtrain

[charlesgan]

Originally Posted by Guerrero

here is any adventages in having separate IP ?
performance?

when you have individual IP point to each domain. others see it as hosted seperatedly, not in same server. Basically if using class C IP, thats make others think that this 2 domain are geographically seperated far enough.

some seo expect create 2 almost identicle site, and use this ip to differentiate those sites. as i see.... they might create hundreds of site.

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by charlesgan

some seo expect create 2 almost identicle site, and use this ip to differentiate those sites. as i see.... they might create hundreds of site.

And when they get caught they get hit with a massive duplicate content penalty.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by slapshotw

And when they get caught they get hit with a massive duplicate content penalty.

Their content checking is state of the art. Those duplicate sites really don't work very well any more.

[ronniead]

Originally Posted by Serra

I think you are getting totally hung up on the wrong part of the answer. There is NO advantage to having different Class-C IP addresses for different sites (when they are all the same site). The search engines all know to do a geographic lookup on the IP to determine the location of the IP and not use the IP address alone. You can't make the search engines believe that you have 3 different websites, when you only have one, with three different IP addresses. If you wish to do that, you will need to get three different hosting accounts and three different providers, in different physical locations around the country. Then it doesn't matter if they have a dedicated IP or a shared IP.

The only reason you would need 3 IP addresses is if you need three different SSL certificates. In that case, you would need 1 reseller account or 3 shared accounts.

Does that mean seohost.com and other similar services don't really work with google (in making them think that there are 3 different websites) as they can tell where the IP is located at?

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by ronniead

Does that mean seohost.com and other similar services don't really work with google (in making them think that there are 3 different websites) as they can tell where the IP is located at?

There are two perceived (but untrue) benefits to getting IPs in different class-c blocks:

1. People think it will be harder for the search engines to tell that it's duplicate content
2. People think their links between their own sites will mean more, because Google will see the links as coming from sites that aren't related to each other.

In my experience, neither of these benefits are real.

-Matt

[ronniead]

Originally Posted by Serra

I'm not sure about seohost.com, as I've not heard of them

[snip snip]

HG does own a service like that.

Yep, that's seohosting.com (see the fineprint on the logo).

Originally Posted by Serra

You can't make the search engines believe that you have 3 different websites, when you only have one, with three different IP addresses. If you wish to do that, you will need to get three different hosting accounts and three different providers, in different physical locations around the country.

I have some websites which I don't want google to know are related. The content is very different, but I nonetheless want to be sure they don't think we're owned by the same company. Would a service like seohosting.com provide that?

One more query...I understand you can't just buy an IP from hostgator and assign it to an addon domain...is that true?

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by ronniead

I have some websites which I don't want google to know are related. The content is very different, but I nonetheless want to be sure they don't think we're owned by the same company. Would a service like seohosting.com provide that?

See my post above yours about this.

One more query...I understand you can't just buy an IP from hostgator and assign it to an addon domain...is that true?

Addons in cPanel servers can't have their own IP. If you get a reseller account, your different domains can have separate IPs.