Inodes limit, resource consumption, several WordPress installs

[dreamsofthequill]

Hi

I've been snooping around various web hosting sites for a little over a month now as I am displeased with what I've been hearing about my current host (godaddy), with whom I've been about two and a half years, ever since my brother recommended it to me due to its low prices.

HostGator seems pretty great. I've poured over the visible forums a bit and I can see that support staff and peer leaders are responsive and friendly. The hosting package I'm looking at (the middle one for shared hosting) also looks like a pretty good deal, and something I'd be more than happy to receive for its price.

But I have a few questions, a couple worries that are keeping me from signing up on the spot.

1. For those familiar with WordPress, any idea if I'll run into problems with the inodes limit with 5-20 WordPress installations? (I currently have about six, though I can see that number growing. Most are for tests, and are not active 'sites').

2. Again, for those familiar with WordPress, say I have about 500-1000 daily page views of various WordPress installations. Would that tax the servers too much (more than 25%?), and cause my account to be suspended?

3. I also run one forum (phpBB 3) with about 60 users, 10 of which are active, and a pmwiki. Do either of these consume lots of computer resources / produce absurd numbers of files? Also, in the case that either of these grows, will I be in trouble?

4. And finally, I have marginally related topic:
Say I have several separate sites, I can host them all with one account and assign separate domains to them, yes? I just want to double-check this before purchasing

Anyone who replies, thank you for your time.


I hope to "become part of the HG family" as I've seen it put in other threads!

[striddy]

Originally Posted by dreamsofthequill

1. For those familiar with WordPress, any idea if I'll run into problems with the inodes limit with 5-20 WordPress installations?

Can't see a problem, but only you know how many images, etc you will want to use.

Originally Posted by dreamsofthequill

2. Again, for those familiar with WordPress, say I have about 500-1000 daily page views of various WordPress installations. Would that tax the servers too much (more than 25%?), and cause my account to be suspended?

Again, can't see a problem, but suggest you use a caching plugin like WP Super Cache from http://ocaoimh.ie/wp-super-cache. This will help greatly.

Originally Posted by dreamsofthequill

4. And finally, I have marginally related topic: Say I have several separate sites, I can host them all with one account and assign separate domains to them, yes? I just want to double-check this before purchasing

Yes you can setup unlimited "addon domains" in cpanel, unless you are on the Hatchling plan.

[blur]

From what I understand, the inodes problem is with the files that sit on the server, not the actual pages of the website. Since Wordpress pulls and generates pages from the database, the number of pages isn't really the issue with inodes

Although, while the WP cache is a good idea for reducing CPU usage, it essentially creates static files which will increase your inode count. I'm not sure the setting for the cache plugin, but you might want to not cache pages or categories that aren't viewed as often as others.

I am a new user on HostGator and while I thought that the inode count wont be an issue, I see now that with my wordpress install, phpbb, Expression Engine, and a couple custom apps, I already sit at just over 3300 inodes. Remember that inodes also include mail and logs and every file in your directory.

[dreamsofthequill]

Thank you for your quick and informative replies!

Can't see a problem, but only you know how many images, etc you will want to use.

Cool. I'm definitely not going to be using tens of thousands of images... not in the foreseeable future, at least.

Again, can't see a problem, but suggest you use a caching plugin like WP Super Cache from http://ocaoimh.ie/wp-super-cache. This will help greatly.

I'm a bit worried about WP cache plugins actually; would they not create more static files I.E. more inodes?

Yes you can setup unlimited "addon domains" in cpanel, unless you are on the Hatchling plan.

Awesome, thank you for the confirmation.

From what I understand, the inodes problem is with the files that sit on the server, not the actual pages of the website. Since Wordpress pulls and generates pages from the database, the number of pages isn't really the issue with inodes

I know that database rows don't count toward inode count; I was worried because every installation of WordPress is another x# of files, all that stuff in wp-admin and wp-includes and all that.

Remember that inodes also include mail and logs and every file in your directory.

Right. Related to mail, I have another question—I currently use hosted Google Apps, for mail and docs and calendar. I should be able to continue using those when I move to HostGator, without affecting HG's server's bandwidth, resources, inodes, etc., right?

Thanks again, everyone. Super-helpful.

[blur]

http://forums.hostgator.com/inodes-l...063#post149063

[striddy]

Originally Posted by dreamsofthequill

I'm a bit worried about WP cache plugins actually; would they not create more static files I.E. more inodes?

Many of us here use the super cache plgin without problem, but it's up to you.

Originally Posted by dreamsofthequill

I currently use hosted Google Apps, for mail and docs and calendar. I should be able to continue using those when I move to HostGator, without affecting HG's server's bandwidth, resources, inodes, etc., right?

Yes you can.

Originally Posted by blur

http://forums.hostgator.com/inodes-l...063#post149063

@ blur - What is the point of that link?

[blagoj]

Originally Posted by striddy

Yes you can.

@ blur - What is the point of that link?

LOL. Maybe recursion?

[Hullabaloo]

Like many, apparently, I am still a bit confused about the inode thing.

It doesn't affect my site so far, so I haven't paid strict attention, but it seems:

Less that 50,000 inodes
No problem

50,000 to 250,000 inodes
No backups of static files, databases will be backed up. So if HG loses your server you will have to rely on manual backups of your site to restore?

250,000 plus inodes
Somebody from HG is going to contact you about reducing your count.

They could suspend your account, but it does not seem like it is automatic??

[GatorWesley]

It's not automatic, it would have to be causing a problem first before suspension would occur.

[beishe8]

What limits are for the reseller accounts?

Is there the same 50K inode limit for the "Diamond" plan which has a diskspace limit of 100GB ?
Thinking about changing to reselling but the 50K inode limit and the lack of SSH access to the database makes me think twice.
(Actually more then twice! )

Thanks!

[dreamsofthequill]

Well, I went for it. Looks like I'm cool on inodes for now!

Thanks again to everyone who helped me make my decision.

[GatorNate]

Beishe8,

On a reseller plan you can make a different cpanel account for each domain you host. This means that you would need to keep each domain under its own 50,000 limit to make sure it is backed up. So if you had 5 domains, each with 20k inodes in a baby plan, you would be at 100k inodes and not getting backed up, but with a reseller plan and each domain in its own cpanel, all 5 would be backed up without issue.

So moving to a reseller account can be really useful for these issues.

Have a great day.

[beishe8]

Thank you GatorNate, have a G'Day!