Inode?

[claygorman]

What does it mean to be over my inode limit?

[GvilleRick]

Every file or folder is 1 inode. Having an excessive number of inodes, especially if you are regularly deleting and creating files, can cause problems with the file system becoming corrupted. At one time there was talk of 50000 inodes being the limit allowed. If you go over this your account will not be backed up automatically.

[Sam]

It means your have went over the 50,000 inode limit and your site will NOT be backed up by hostgator.

[hcacree]

Backup up!?! What whimp needs a backup?

I like playing Russian Roulette with bullets in all 6 chambers of the gun. ;-)

[cleanxhost]

Originally Posted by hcacree

Backup up!?! What whimp needs a backup?

I like playing Russian Roulette with bullets in all 6 chambers of the gun. ;-)

I like that!
I think that I'm the worst one for doing backups!

[hcacree]

claygorman - Could you post the message you got about inode limit?

It does seem that HostGator should start sending out warnings at say 45,000 inodes that hitting 50,000 inodes will result in no backup. The webmaster would have a little time to plan and react that way.

[Serra]

Originally Posted by hcacree

It does seem that HostGator should start sending out warnings at say 45,000 inodes that hitting 50,000 inodes will result in no backup. The webmaster would have a little time to plan and react that way.

Its extremely difficult to hit 50K inodes. I suspect that any user nearly the 50k limit has a fairly good idea that their site is HUGE.

[hcacree]

Agreed Serra, they would know their site is huge. But would they know that when they hit the magic number of 50,000 that HostGator stops backuping up their site?

This topic has been hit hard in forum lately, but the issue will disappear into the bowels of the forum soon enough.

#1 rule in customer satisfaction is no surprises.

[brad]

i had always imagined that the inode limit was directed more towards those who might be tempted to create 'doorway' pages to spam search engines

[GvilleRick]

I would think that the major factors in exceeding the inode limit would be either using the account as file storage, an image hosting site (or file hosting site, or having an exorbitant number of addon domains on the site.

[brad]

i would have thought about the file/image hosting myself except i would think that other restrictions or TOS violations would get in the way.

[hcacree]

Does it really matter why I could have 46,000 inodes? Agreed that is a large site. Agreed that most websites are no near that large.

To me it isn't the Inodes - It is the fact that (1) I don't have a good way to count them and (2) if I hit 50,000 unexpectly then HostGator suddenly stops backing-up up my site.

HostGator starting sending notices above over the Inode limit becuase a very large site wasn't backed-up and the customer was surprised when his site got blown away there was no backup.

I have no idea what the message says, but claygorman who started this thread obviouls didn't understand it.

As I said before, I think you should get warnings at say 45K, and at 50K no more backup.

[ickb]

Originally Posted by Sam

It means your have went over the 50,000 inode limit and your site will NOT be backed up by hostgator.

Does this mean that they will *SHUT DOWN* a site with 50,000 inode as I have on used 50MB and have about 5,000 inodes so at 500MB, I'll have 50,000 inodes.. not even close to the 350GB Hatchling. or are we talking about NOT having their website backed up?

I have my own back up so I'm not so worried about Hostgator doing backups for me. Okay, realistically.. I don't even see myself going to 50,000 inodes so presently this doesn't affect me, but I do see problems for people have bigger websites than myself

[hcacree]

I'm sure that I'll never trip over the 50K limit either, but I don't want to be surprised.

My understanding is that it only means that HostGator has stopped doing backups because the site backups peg disk I/O for a "long" time.

Obviously when the site gets to 50K inodes it is going to be awful hard for the owner to do a backup too. :-)

[Sam]

Originally Posted by ickb

Does this mean that they will *SHUT DOWN* a site with 50,000 inode

No, they just wont back it up. However if you use so many inodes that you damage the server, then they will shut your site down.

[ickb]

Hostgators official policy..
http://www.hostgator.com/tos.shtml

7b.) INODES
The use of more than 50,000 inodes on any shared account may potentially result in suspension. Accounts found to be exceeding the 50,000 inode limit will automatically be removed from our backup system to avoid overusage. Every file on your account uses up 1 inode.

Simply exceeding the limit does not constitute grounds for suspension however accounts that constantly create and delete large numbers of files on a regular basis or causing file system damage may cause your account to be flagged for review.

Basically if you eventually accumulate 50,000 inodes *EYE BALL* your account. Other web host policies are similar. They don't specifically state an inode count, but say if you are going to be loading and deleting huge amounts of files a day.. your account *COULD BE* terminated.

[claygorman]

WOW!!

I feel odd


Proc: iNode Check


checking: cgi-bin 1 inode(s) 4 kb
checking: chat1 1 inode(s) 4 kb
checking: etc 400 inode(s) 2248 kb
checking: fantastico_bac 2 inode(s) 5792 kb
checking: logs 286 inode(s) 17912 kb
checking: mail 7886 inode(s) 153544 kb
checking: mysql 9 inode(s) 1348 kb
checking: public_ftp 8 inode(s) 40 kb
checking: public_html 226793 inode(s) 20437888 kb
checking: ruby 1288 inode(s) 5628 kb
checking: ssl 488 inode(s) 4044 kb
checking: tmp 1381 inode(s) 49320 kb
checking: webmaster 1 inode(s) 4 kb
______________________________


238,544 inodes total (477.00%)
20,193 mb total disk used

[claygorman]

I have alot of images that i use for my personal reference. I dont host files for people i just keep them in a safe place which happens to be hostgator.


maybe i should change my name to node nazi or something? haha

I have been trying to clean up my inodes.

[hcacree]

Well the images ARE NOT safe. Since you are over the 50K inodes, HostGator has not been backuping up your site. Since you're 4.77 times the limit, they probably don't have ANY backup of your site at all.

Zip images into a single file then save zip file on Hostgator. Upload/Downoad is longer but you can reduce your inode count.

Aren't you glad thatHostGator started flagging the problem!?! Bet you had no idea that there was no backup of anything for your site.

[claygorman]

Ya. I wasnt aware of this inode thing until now so im trying to reduce it. I have made a personal backup of the site. Its only 20 gigs and i have 10 Mb intrernet so it doesnt not take too long to get 20 gigs. But am working on reducing this.

p.s. Apparently 50k isnt that hard to reach haha.

[hcacree]

It does seem that 50K inodes would be a reasonable clip level above which HostGator would charge extra to make a backup.

[claygorman]

Im sure its not that hard but i hate the marketing. TB of space but only 50k inodes and low cpu usage. HAHA

its impossible to use that much while keeping the inodes and cpu low.

[hcacree]

I agree. It is unfair that HostGator uses such marketing hype when the rest of the world is so constrained. None of the other hosting services are marekting like this. Right?

:-)

[Sam]

Originally Posted by hcacree

I agree. It is unfair that HostGator uses such marketing hype when the rest of the world is so constrained. None of the other hosting services are marekting like this. Right?

:-)

Many other hosts have big 1TB+ plans/accounts and have inode limits aswel