Help Forum

[bohemian]

I am new to Host Gator. and running into a lot of questions. I could not locate a help forum for technical questions, but, found this Suggestions forum... May I suggest a Help Forum or does anyone know of one already here that I have not found yet?

PS... I called in and was told that HostGator will not support .aspx
and that I would need to use php for my forms. Why does Host Gator not accept .aspx.

thanks,

[darkmagic]

Because HG doesnt run windows but from what I heard they are having a beta test for their new packages.. Instead of running Cpanel they will be running Plesk and that will get you started on aspx.

Cpanel >>> Made for Linux Systems
Plesk >>>> More for Windows but can use with Linux..

, Josh

[Sam]

Originally Posted by bohemian

I am new to Host Gator. and running into a lot of questions. I could not locate a help forum for technical questions, but, found this Suggestions forum... May I suggest a Help Forum or does anyone know of one already here that I have not found yet?

There are several support forums, you just need your account verified by HG Staff before you can see them

[special]

Originally Posted by darkmagic

Because HG doesnt run windows but from what I heard they are having a beta test for their new packages.. Instead of running Cpanel they will be running Plesk and that will get you started on aspx.

Cpanel >>> Made for Linux Systems
Plesk >>>> More for Windows but can use with Linux..

, Josh

Umm there is a cpanel version for windows server aswel... But plesk owns cpanel anyday in my opion.

[YukonMaster]

Originally Posted by special

But plesk owns cpanel anyday in my opion.

How is that? What makes it better?

[special]

Well why is windows the most used os on the planet well hmm its based on userfrendly.

I think its more clear to navigate and for my personal look and feel its nice. Functions are mostly the same as cpanel only I got a nice add on. It has a remote desktop vieuwer so I can manage my own servers at home, or when im at my girlfrends house in the weekend away from home.

I dont feel like runing back and forth to see if everything is oke xD I find it eassy, but then again its mather of personal opion they both basicly offer the same.

[kmaw]

Welcome to the forums, Bill.



Windows is what many call a 'necessary evil'

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by special

Well why is windows the most used os on the planet well hmm its based on userfrendly.

Is this a serious statement? Windows is the most used OS because it's user friendly?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by special

Umm there is a cpanel version for windows server aswel... But plesk owns cpanel anyday in my opion.

There isn't a released version of cPanel for windows yet.

You statement about Plesk made me laught very loud btw

[Sam]

Originally Posted by slapshotw

Is this a serious statement? Windows is the most used OS because it's user friendly?

lmao windows user friendly

[codesight]

Windows is the most widely used for desktops, I'll agree with that, the reasons, well... we won't go there as I maintain my opinion that OS X is far superior to Windows any day.

As far as hosting, if you do a little research, you'll find that a large majority of the hosting servers or servers in general, for that matter, are *nix boxes.

[codesight]

Here's some information for you taken from netcraft.com, if you include Apache and all the other NON-microsoft servers, Windows is definitely NOT the leader. Apache is the leader in this department.

Market Share for Top Servers Across All Domains August 1995 - November 2007
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2007/11/overallc.gif

[kmaw]

We are now offering any of these servers to be set up with Linux cPanel, Linux Plesk, or Windows Plesk at no additional charge. Please contact our sales department to request Plesk or Windows. (http://www.hostgator.com/dedicated.shtml)

[gwyneth]

Originally Posted by slapshotw

Is this a serious statement? Windows is the most used OS because it's user friendly?

Originally Posted by Sam

lmao windows user friendly

I was going to write, with friends like that...

But think about it. We've all had high-maintenance friends we couldn't afford, who mooched too much of our resources, made unreasonable demands on our time, consistently let us down at the worst moment, took way too much attention, turned the simplest request into an all-day production, require special handling to get some things done, and so on. But who would be even more trouble to ditch than to keep.

[special]

Originally Posted by slapshotw

Is this a serious statement? Windows is the most used OS because it's user friendly?

So your first computer slapshot was a mac or a linux driven pc? I mean learning how to handle windows is much easier then operating a linux box cause there is more compibalitity, or like letting some1 install a program that never used the 3osses the person will succeed in mac and windows but i doubt on linux XD

Microsoft is created for all not 1, you can go any way with windows simply cause you can add or take off so many features, when you buy windows you have something in your hand. When you donwload / buy linux you godda have shitlaod of codecs to be able to listen to audio en video, hardware issue's not really supported drivers meaning no real performese list gos on and on and on.

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by special

Microsoft is created for all not 1, you can go any way with windows simply cause you can add or take off so many features, when you buy windows you have something in your hand. When you donwload / buy linux you godda have shitlaod of codecs to be able to listen to audio en video, hardware issue's not really supported drivers meaning no real performese list gos on and on and on.

I didn't say Linux was easier than Windows...but I'm 100% sure using a Mac is.

[othellobloke]

Getting into the Mac vs PC or Windows vs / OSX debate isn't productive mainly because both think the other are a bunch of morons. The numbers speak for themselves. I will say this though... anyone who says Apple computers don't get viruses or don't crash are simply stupid and don't know what they're talking about.

Using a computer, Windows is far more user friendly than OSX - I use BOTH daily frequently. On web servers, Unix is far better than Windows.

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by othellobloke

Getting into the Mac vs PC or Windows vs / OSX debate isn't productive mainly because both think the other are a bunch of morons.
<snip>
(Othello calling the other side a bunch of morons)

The numbers don't speak for themselves. You realize that Apple has a much, much higher market share in the markets it actually competes in, right? It's like saying BMWs are terrible and that the numbers speak for themselves because they have a low market share in the construction and sub-$500 used car markets. Apple's laptop market share in the markets where it competes (that is, not ten thousand computers as cheaply as possible to a business purchases) is between 20-46% right now... http://www.insanely-great.com/news.php?id=7793 .

Anyway, you are right that this argument will go nowhere. But saying Windows ships lots of units because it's easy to use is one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in a long time.

[YukonMaster]

Apple has a long road a head of them to become as mainstream as Microsoft. Apple has a few things going for them, less piracy, because their OS software is proprietary and you can't just install Mac OSX on any machine. They have a full GUI, normal users won't need to use any form of command line. Everything just works as it should.

I don't think Linux will ever become mainstream in the consumer OS department. There is a limited GUI, you need to use the command line to simple tasks, people want something that can work out of the box, apple is the best for that at this point, but MS is close. You can spend hours even days finding drivers and getting everything to work.

I heard a comment on how there aren't any viruses on Macs, your funny, and stupid.

Mac has it's fair share of viruses and so does linux. But with Windows taking up the majority of the systems in the world, people write viruses for windows because everyone uses it, why make a virus for something that people don't use? The majority of large banks, use Windows, and this isn't something I just pulled out of my hat. My cousin is a lead developer for Microsoft and is very high in the company. It isn't just the large corporate environments that are attacked with viruses and hacking attempts everyday, home PC users are the same, because chances are, the victim is running windows.

The thing is, almost almost anyone who uses a computer, has used windows at some point, and with windows, everything is familiar, there is less of a learning curve to apple as it has a very comfortable GUI.

Linux, unless they get rid of the command line for consumer use, it won't become common in peoples homes. Why? because, you ask the regular MS user what a command line is, and they will say, What?

Linux is great for servers performance wise, which is why Microsoft doesn't appeal to that, if MS wanted to put it's huge corporate resources towards blowing apache out of the water, it would do it in an instant. There is a larger market towards making their products easier to use for a beginner and for those familiar with windows.

[gwyneth]

Originally Posted by special

So your first computer slapshot was a mac or a linux driven pc? I mean learning how to handle windows is much easier then operating a linux box cause there is more compibalitity, or like letting some1 install a program that never used the 3osses the person will succeed in mac and windows but i doubt on linux XD

While Ryan is correct about the holy/flame wars that can result from this debate, and preference arguments, by definition, can have no winner, fact-free opinions can distort things.

The size of the Windows userbase today is the result of many factors, including "snowballing" since 1984 of first MS-DOS, then early Windows, and so on, and, until five to ten years ago was influenced at least as much by hardware manufacturing and pricing trends as "friendliness".

Some Unix GUIs are about as easy to work with as Windows, while the Unix command line pretty much compares to DOS re usability (and is much more powerful).

[Chimpie]

Originally Posted by YukonMaster

Apple has a long road a head of them to become as mainstream as Microsoft.

I don't think they want to be though. As slapshotw was stating, Apple has a different market. If Apple wanted their systems to be mainstream they would open up their software and let anyone do what ever they wanted and they would have the same problems that MS does.

[othellobloke]

Originally Posted by slapshotw

The numbers don't speak for themselves. You realize that Apple has a much, much higher market share in the markets it actually competes in, right? It's like saying BMWs are terrible and that the numbers speak for themselves because they have a low market share in the construction and sub-$500 used car markets. Apple's laptop market share in the markets where it competes (that is, not ten thousand computers as cheaply as possible to a business purchases) is between 20-46% right now... http://www.insanely-great.com/news.php?id=7793 .

Anyway, you are right that this argument will go nowhere. But saying Windows ships lots of units because it's easy to use is one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in a long time.

Seems to me that anything you don't agree with is ridiculous. The numbers DO speak for themselves. It's not fate that Windows keeps getting shipped by the hundreds of thousands. And millions of people aren't buying Windows because they care about Bill Gates paycheque.

Seems to me that people buy Macs because of those stupid advertisements on TV, and subconciously they think having a Mac will make them cool. Coming from someone who uses a PC and Mac everyday at work... Macs suck. If someone bought me a brandnew Apple computer for christmas, I'd flog it and buy a PC - they DON'T have an easy GUI - no easier or harder than Windows. I despise the attitude Mac supporters have of 'we are the enlightened ones'.

[slapshotw]

Originally Posted by othellobloke

Seems to me that anything you don't agree with is ridiculous.

Pot calling the kettle black a bit?

The numbers DO speak for themselves. It's not fate that Windows keeps getting shipped by the hundreds of thousands. And millions of people aren't buying Windows because they care about Bill Gates paycheque.

No--the vast majority of windows machines are sold to companies that already have a big investment in windows, and so the cycle keeps paying for itself. They've invested so much time, training and money in Windows that it'd be cost prohibitive for them to change. If you remove those people from the equation, which is a market Apple has no interest in, Apple's market share is significantly higher.