i have some things to say

[bigdog320]

Not sure where to put this but what ever

1. Okay so everyone knows y'all are offering Unlimited Disk Space and Unlimited Bandwidth now is this true or a lie to fool customers into buying you're web host pains.

2. i was looking in y'all TOS it says that you can not Broadcast or Streaming of Live Sporting Events and it says in your hosting pains that you can Stream audio and video whats up with that, now what if my job is to Broadcast and steam live videos of sporting events or anything for that matter

3. and the other thing is why can't we have more then one primary domain name we don't want subdomian names.

4. and also whats up with INODES and User may not Use 25% or more of system resources, and what if i made a website like youtube or myspace and getting more then 100,000+ user on all the time? now i want to know why did y'all say yall have Unlimited Bandwidth and Unlimited Disk Space if y'all really don't have it

P.S i hope i made sense to ya'll and sorry for my grammar and spelling

[GvilleRick]

There is no limit on bandwidth or disk space but that doesn't mean you can just use the server however you want. You can read what the owner said when unlimited plans were first offered here on the HG blog.

The TOS does say that you cannot have live streaming. The streaming that is allowed is http streaming which would not be live but simply streaming a video or audio file.

I have no idea what you mean in number 3. You can have multiple domains on all but the Hatchling plan. You can only have one primary domain due to the way cPanel works but can have addon domains and subdomains. Reseller plans let you set up as many accounts as you want.

If your site becomes popular and uses too many CPU resources then you will need to move to a VPS or dedicated server. Why would you expect to be able to do whatever you want for $10 a month? I suspect if your site suddenly began to load slowly due to another site on the server using too many resources that you would expect HG to do something about it. This has nothing to do with disk space or bandwidth.

[bigdog320]

Originally Posted by GvilleRick

There is no limit on bandwidth or disk space but that doesn't mean you can just use the server however you want. You can read what the owner said when unlimited plans were first offered here on the HG blog.

The TOS does say that you cannot have live streaming. The streaming that is allowed is http streaming which would not be live but simply streaming a video or audio file.

I have no idea what you mean in number 3. You can have multiple domains on all but the Hatchling plan. You can only have one primary domain due to the way cPanel works but can have addon domains and subdomains. Reseller plans let you set up as many accounts as you want.

If your site becomes popular and uses too many CPU resources then you will need to move to a VPS or dedicated server. Why would you expect to be able to do whatever you want for $10 a month? I suspect if your site suddenly began to load slowly due to another site on the server using too many resources that you would expect HG to do something about it. This has nothing to do with disk space or bandwidth.

im spending about $15 a month on this and now $30 a year for 2 domain names because i couldn't get a refund on my first domain name that i didn't want and now i'm stuck with 2 domain names and the addon domain thing is basically acting as a subdomain name

"There is no limit on bandwidth or disk space but that doesn't mean you can just use the server however you want" everything has a limit so that means host gator really doesn't have unlimited bandwidth or disk space?

[doulos]

Don't we all wish we could get $350 worth of performance for less than $10/month. Basically, you get what you pay for. If your needs are low $10/mth works fine, if you are youtube, $350 would probably be a good deal.

[bigdog320]

i guess y'all are not getting the picture here on what i'm saying

[EarlyOut]

Oh, we've got the picture, plain as day. You're not willing to read the Terms of Service, and try to understand what they're plainly telling you, and you just want to argue about it.

Life is too short for this kind of nonsense.

[EarlyOut]

And by the way, "inodes" has nothing to do with the number of site visitors you have. Look it up.

[eLIANT]

Hostgater does not restrict the amount of storage you use.
Hostgater does not restrict the amount of data you transfer (bandwidth) per month.

Does this answer your question?

[GvilleRick]

Yeah, I'm really not sure what the point is of the post. Nice thing is that HG has a money back guarantee so if you find a better deal or you really think HG is llying to you then you can get the money back on the hosting account and move it elsewhere. As for the two domains, the behavior is the default cPanel method of handling addon domains. If you set it up correctly you can have domain1.com go to one site and domain2.com go to a separate site. The subdomain format should never really show to folks accessing your sites.

[GatorDavid]

Originally Posted by bigdog320

Not sure where to put this but what ever

1. Okay so everyone knows y'all are offering Unlimited Disk Space and Unlimited Bandwidth now is this true or a lie to fool customers into buying you're web host pains.

This has been addressed by our CEO Brent Oxley already: http://blog.hostgator.com/2007/10/06/selling-out/

Originally Posted by bigdog320

2. i was looking in y'all TOS it says that you can not Broadcast or Streaming of Live Sporting Events and it says in your hosting pains that you can Stream audio and video whats up with that, now what if my job is to Broadcast and steam live videos of sporting events or anything for that matter

You can stream content, e.g. serving MP3s or non-live videos, but you may not stream live content. If your job is to broadcast or stream live video feeds, I recommend a VPS or dedicated server.

Originally Posted by bigdog320

3. and the other thing is why can't we have more then one primary domain name we don't want subdomian names.

You can have more than one on the upper level plans, only the Hatchling has this restriction. It's intended as an entry level plan, and is cheaper than the others since it has restricted features.

Originally Posted by bigdog320

4. and also whats up with INODES and User may not Use 25% or more of system resources, and what if i made a website like youtube or myspace and getting more then 100,000+ user on all the time? now i want to know why did y'all say yall have Unlimited Bandwidth and Unlimited Disk Space if y'all really don't have it

Disk space and bandwidth are different from CPU. As one of our resident server monitors, I deal with many sites that have outgrown shared hosting every day. The problem with hosting extremely popular sites on our shared servers is not one of bandwidth or diskspace, it's the amount of CPU required to just run their webpages.

Every time a page is loaded, it takes a very small amount of CPU power (internally we look at CPU seconds a page takes to load, or the amount of seconds the CPU took to execute a single process under a particular user). If you load 1000 pages, it requires 1000*(CPU seconds required to load one page)

The problem with this is extremely large amounts of users who hit a site all consume CPU seconds to load the site. This will essentially lock out everyone else who you share the machine with from loading their site (since your processes will have a monopoly on the CPU.) Thus, the sites for the shared users you share the machine with load slowly.

Compounding the problem is the issue of MySQL. A query is usually performed on dynamic pages, so the disk is involved in a table lookup as well. When you have large amounts of people hitting your site, it's devastating to disk I/O performance, which also drags down the performance of the site, and other people on the same machine.

You do share the machine with other users, and it's possible to outgrow shared hosting- I deal with it every day. The key is keeping an eye on how hard your scripts are on the server, and knowing when to make the jump from shared to dedicated hosting, for the benefit of your users.

EDIT: The inodes limitation was put into place since ext3 (and other filesystems) do not handle large amounts of inodes very well. Large amounts of inodes can cause possible fragmentation, and then filesystem errors. Ext3 (and some other filesystems) are somewhat more resistant to fragmentation than say, NTFS, but even so- we see large amounts of inodes accelerate filesystem degradation. Hence, the limitation.

[bigdog320]

hey GatorDavid i have the Business Plan and i want my new domain name as a secondary main how can i go by doing that

[GatorDavid]

Hey there,

You can do that very easily. If you already have an account with a domain and you want to add a new secondary domain, then you can login to cPanel, and head to Addon Domains. From there, you're free to add as many domains as you want. Here's a video tutorial that is pretty informative:

http://www.hostgator.com/tutorials/c...don-domain.htm

Let me know if you need any assistance with this.

[Pazeh]

from what I'm guessing, the op wants to switch the main domain of the cpanel account with one that is a add-on now; right??

[GatorDavid]

Originally Posted by Pazeh

from what I'm guessing, the op wants to switch the main domain of the cpanel account with one that is a add-on now; right??

If this is true, then the OP will need to fill out the following:

https://secure.hostgator.com/changedomain.php

[dave g]

I read this as the OP want's websiteB.com to point to his/her main domain websiteA.com this as we know can be done at most domain registrars and some will let you do URL Masking also known as Stealth Redirection or URL Hiding. This means that the visitors to the domain name will be forwarded to your destination website, however the URL in their browser address bar will remain the same.

Just my 2cent.

Dave G

[virtvir5]

You mean s/he wants both Youtube and MySpace to share the same host resources allocation for ten bucks a month?!

Originally Posted by bigdog320

... what if i made a website like youtube or myspace and getting more then 100,000+ user on all the time?

[Dwight]

Originally Posted by virtvir5

You mean s/he wants both Youtube and MySpace to share the same host resources allocation for ten bucks a month?!

That doesn't surprise me Richard... I get potential clients all the time that want a website that sells their product, ships it, puts the money in their account, reorders supplies, re-manufactures the product, calculates their taxes, pays their taxes... and can I get that for under a thousand dollars please?

Even George Jetson had to push a button to get his job started... some people want the button to push itself.

[EarlyOut]

The wonderful, wacky world of web site creation and hosting is infested by a persistent belief in magic.