Get Your Account with UK based IP's!

[Nebulos]

Great idea, since i'm from Europe and most of my visitors are.. perfect =)

Would be clad to help out anyway i can

[GatorDaveC]

Would anyone else like to test this service? Most of the kinks have been worked out.

We don't have SSL working yet, but any regular site should work fine. PM me if you would like to try the UK IP service.

[cptbob123]

The Uktest IP resolves to a russian IP?

Well acording to a plugin in firefox anyway

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by cptbob123

The Uktest IP resolves to a russian IP?

Well acording to a plugin in firefox anyway

root@finn1 [~]# zcw 74.53.82.2

% This is the CyberAbuse Whois v5.4


[ Informations about 74.53.82.2 ]

 IP range     :    74.52.0.0 - 74.55.255.255
 Network name :    NETBLK-THEPLANET-BLK-14
 Infos        :    ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc.
 Infos        :    315 Capitol
 Infos        :    Suite 205
 Infos        :    Houston
 Infos        :    TX
 Infos        :    77002
 Country      :    United States (US)
 Abuse E-mail :    abuse@theplanet.com
 Source       :    ARIN

[quietFinn]

I was testing this UK based IP thing in my server, and here are some results:

In the same server, located in ThePlanet's Dallas Datacenter, I have 2 test accounts, one with US IP, 74.54.17.203, and another account with UK based IP, 81.95.156.164.
Tests done in/from Finland.


PING:

Ping statistics for 74.54.17.203:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 155ms, Maximum = 160ms, Average = 157ms

Ping statistics for 81.95.156.164:
    Packets: Sent = 100, Received = 100, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 44ms, Maximum = 48ms, Average = 45ms

TRACEROUTE:

Tracing route to cb.11.364a.static.theplanet.com [74.54.17.203]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  cb.11.364a.static.theplanet.com [74.54.17.203]
  2     9 ms     6 ms     6 ms  dsl-hkibrasgw2-fed0de00-1.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.208.1]
  3     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  141.208.23.93
  4    33 ms    49 ms    49 ms  hkicore2-e-1-2-0.datanet.tele.fi [141.208.12.101]
  5    13 ms    16 ms     5 ms  hkiasbr2-s0-0-0.datanet.tele.fi [141.208.8.14]
  6     6 ms     5 ms     6 ms  hls-b4-link.telia.net [213.248.68.209]
  7    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  s-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.249.0]
  8    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  s-b3-link.telia.net [80.91.248.207]
  9    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  global-ic-120468-s-b1.c.telia.net [213.248.77.214]
 10   154 ms   153 ms   154 ms  The-Planet.TenGigabitEthernet2-3.ar2.HOU1.gblx.net [64.214.196.58]
 11   159 ms   159 ms   159 ms  et5-4.ibr03.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.49]
 12   158 ms   159 ms   222 ms  te7-1.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.87.253.2]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14   160 ms   158 ms   159 ms  te1-1.car06.dllstx6.theplanet.com [70.87.254.178]
 15   158 ms   157 ms   158 ms  cb.11.364a.static.theplanet.com [74.54.17.203]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to a4.9c.5f51.static.theplanet.com [81.95.156.164]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  a4.9c.5f51.static.theplanet.com [81.95.156.164]
  2     7 ms     5 ms     5 ms  dsl-hkibrasgw2-fed0de00-1.dhcp.inet.fi [80.222.208.1]
  3     5 ms     6 ms     5 ms  141.208.151.62
  4     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  hkicore1-e-1-2-0.datanet.tele.fi [141.208.12.97]
  5    12 ms    24 ms    24 ms  hkiasbr1-s0-0-0.datanet.tele.fi [141.208.8.10]
  6     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  hls-b4-link.telia.net [213.248.75.17]
  7    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  s-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.33]
  8    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  s-b1-link.telia.net [80.91.254.117]
  9    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  level3-ic-130907-s-b1.c.telia.net [213.248.77.198]
 10    39 ms    42 ms    49 ms  ae-5-5.ebr1.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.140.198]
 11    42 ms    41 ms    42 ms  ae-1-100.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.141.150]
 12    37 ms    37 ms    37 ms  ae-2-2.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.133.89]
 13    37 ms    44 ms    37 ms  ae-1-100.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.141.170]
 14    48 ms    48 ms    47 ms  ae-2-2.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.132.133]
 15    48 ms    48 ms    47 ms  ae-100-100.ebr1.London1.Level3.net [4.69.141.165]
 16    48 ms    45 ms    45 ms  ae-44-44.ebr2.London2.Level3.net [4.69.141.202]
 17    48 ms    48 ms    48 ms  ae-2-56.edge3.London2.Level3.net [4.68.117.179]
 18    48 ms    99 ms    48 ms  THE-PLANET.edge3.London2.Level3.net [212.113.15.158]
 19    48 ms    48 ms    48 ms  22.90.5f51.static.theplanet.com [81.95.144.34]
 20    45 ms    48 ms    45 ms  a4.9c.5f51.static.theplanet.com [81.95.156.164]

Trace complete.

HTTP DOWNLOAD:

74.54.17.203 (USIP):
50MB file: 389KB/sec
730MB file: 390KB/sec

81.95.156.164 (UKIP):
50MB file: 981KB/sec
730MB file: 1065KB/sec

Unfortunately this UK IP doesn't work with TCP (or SSH) connections

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by quietFinn

Unfortunately this UK IP doesn't work with TCP (or SSH) connections

Meant to say:
Unfortunately this UK IP doesn't work with FTP (or SSH) connections

[GatorDaveC]

Connect using localip.yourdomain.com or cpanel.yourdomain.com, and it will work.

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by GatorDaveC

Connect using localip.yourdomain.com or cpanel.yourdomain.com, and it will work.

I meant that FTP & SSH do not work using this UK Based IP.

[GatorDaveC]

Ah ok.. Yeah it won't work for the UK IP because of the way its setup.

We decided to make this product domain based, instead of IP based. If it were IP based, we could probably have FTP and SSH on the UK IP. Having it domain based, will allow us to open up to a lot more different countries with less servers.

In the end, it should be a better solution, since single IPs won't be pointed to a specific server.. It can use many domains from different servers.

It will also be a cheaper solution for clients as well. We still don't know how much this product is going to cost yet, but it will be very reasonable.

The back end is basically at a working state at the moment. I'm going to start working on a simple client side web GUI. I'll post some screen shots when I have something done for the client side.

Originally Posted by quietFinn

I meant that FTP & SSH do not work using this UK Based IP.

[zorrobiwan]

Originally Posted by GatorDaveC

I've taken one of our free templates and stuck it on one of our servers so you guys in Europe can test the speed.

For the best results, I recommend flushing your cache after trying each mirror.

The US mirror where the data is stored is located here : http://74.53.82.2/~uktest/

The UK host is located here http://uktest.hostgator.com/

Let me know how the speed is!

I tested them and it's quite impressive.

I make some test with http://www.site-perf.com/ and perf goes simple to double.

We are currently investigating to move our hosted accounts to an European provider. This option could be really great !

I'll PM you to make a test

[istvan]

I pm'd you DaveC

thx for being innovativ and exploring new fields

regards,
Istvan

[istvan]

i dont know how many clients you have from german speaking countries but I can assure that there is need of a reliable host and big market potential. if you already plan to extend your business within germany (IP) please let us know... this would for sure be something we can't await to happen.

there araised some questions ... maybe someone could be of short help.
Gatorstaff wrote

If you have a web site that is trying to rank in say google.co.uk, you should see a significant increase in the ranking because the site will now be on a UK IP.

Don't misunderstand me, i am doing the UK-Ip thing only to increase speed, google ranking is good but we need prior a speed increase. regarding the quote from the staff: I thought a different IP(c class) is only good for SEO if you do backlinking from this sites to another c class IP which f.ex. is your maindomain. I dont see a seo advantage only because the site is now hosted on a UK-IP. Please correct me if i am wrong ... im not that experienced in SEO but this is what I know so far.

thx and best regards,
Ist

[GatorDaveC]

A quick update.

The back end is now at a point where it is fully functional. As such, we've begun work on the web interface which will be available to you in your actual WHM.

It's still at a very basic & raw state right now but here is what it's looking like now:

http://dcollins.staff.hostgator.com/geoip/geoip1.png
http://dcollins.staff.hostgator.com/geoip/geoip2.png

It should be noted that we still undecided on how we're going to offer this service and whether or not this will end up being a paid service.

A quick explanation of the interface:

The Select Client box is populated with the username of your main reseller account and all sub accounts. When you change selections in this combo box the rest of the information populates accordingly.

The Location box obviously shows a list of available IP pools from differing geographical locations.

Anything crossed out in red denotes a reserved IP and is unavailable. Usually for dedicated IP's / SSL installations.

You can simply select the IP from the right and click "Change IP" and the back end will take care of the rest.

[lefty74]

looks very good, just tested it from holland and it

Ping statistics for 74.53.82.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 138ms, Maximum = 165ms, Average = 144ms

Ping statistics for 81.95.156.162:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 29ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 30ms

quite a difference!

[bickern]

now things seem to be going smoothly, what are the chances of having my reseller account with UK based IP's?

anytime soon folks or is it not in the plans for that.

[istvan]

I had several mails with GatorDave but either he does respond in a very short and strict manner or does not respond at all. furthermore i would like to know when you setup my domain you promised me. It's so unreliable when you say something but nothing happen for days ... not even an answer. I have the history from our conversation, which is written in a friendly way from myself, and i am really thinking about sending that to the customer support from HG.

sorry guy(s) but this is certainly not the Hostgator-way to handle customer needs. I am also sorry to handle this via the forum but infact I dont have a choice since my mails to GatorDave are completely ignored. Why do you seem to be such an arrogant and unfriendly person DaveC? Maybe im wrong with this and I really hope that this is only a misunderstanding and I can keep you on your word for the future.

thx for notice,
a really surprised customer from switzerland

[quietFinn]

Originally Posted by istvan

...

sorry guy(s) but this is certainly not the Hostgator-way to handle customer needs. ...

You should remember that this is not a service HostGator is offering and you are paying for, at the moment it's just testing.

[istvan]

hey all what i ask for is the staff to be reliable and to behave with integrity to agreements made. when we pass the information 1:1 to our customers and the things are not done, we hang for that.

If staff can not apply a spark of decency by at least responding within 2/3 days, at the end this is just the worst disrespectful service you could get. And i am 100% sure that i don't deserve to be threated like that.

Its really sad and it leaves even now a bad taste that i had to write on the forum to receive an answer. i am really speechless and surprised about the whole thing. but I try to consider that, with lot of good will, as an exception - future will show!

[GatorDaveC]

IPMI was using one of the IPs I was assigning to the test accounts. There could have been an outage for a little while. The issue has been resolved.

Just giving everyone a heads up.

[SlAiD]

Hi,

Is this still valid for exigtin hosting accounts or new ones?

The process to get this is still to PM GatorDaveC?


SL

[tymawr]

aAll working ok ... but trying to install a subdomain and getting

"ERROR
The requested URL could not be retrieved

While trying to retrieve the URL: http://xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx

The following error was encountered:

* Unable to forward this request at this time.

This request could not be forwarded to the origin server or to any parent caches. The most likely cause for this error is that:

* The cache administrator does not allow this cache to make direct connections to origin servers, and
* All configured parent caches are currently unreachable.

Your cache administrator is root.
Generated Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:31:58 GMT by london.hostedlocal.com (squid/2.6.STABLE21) "

any ideas?

tymawr

[GatorDaveC]

We still are allowing new accounts on the beta service. If you want to try it, please PM me with the domain you want the services added to.

Originally Posted by SlAiD

Hi,

Is this still valid for exigtin hosting accounts or new ones?

The process to get this is still to PM GatorDaveC?


SL

[GatorDaveC]

A bug has been corrected where it wouldn't allow you to use htpasswd. Thanks istvan for pointing that out.

[GatorDHanna]

For the time being, we're going to close this round of beta testers and stop accepting new beta testers.

Any beta testers already using this service will not experience any loss of service and can contact GatorDaveC via PM with any questions or concerns.

Thanks everyone for your help and participation!

[SlAiD]

Glad I was the last one.

The ping on my country drops from 135ms to 29ms avr.

The connection to USA is done with bad routing and it's hight usage at peack day's did influence the results but the fact is that it's a lot better.

However, and I did send a PM regarding this, I (think that) know that FTP under the UK IP seems not possible, right?


SL