Bandwidth/Storage disparity

jimi089 · #1 11-30-2006, 02:24 PM

Greetings,

Hosting with HostGator has been great, but I have one beef with the pricing schemes.

Why does a shared site that pays 14.95 a month receive 10 GB of storage and 100 GB of bandwidth, while a reseller account that pays 24.95 a month receive 5 GB of storage and 50 GB of bandwidth?

I understand that the reseller account has other valuable features, but I still think the disparity is too stark.

-jimi

Eric · #2 11-30-2006, 03:10 PM

I agree with you there. But I guess if you have a reseller account they think you are going to be "reselling" hosting so you would be making money.

slapshotw · #3 11-30-2006, 05:18 PM

I would think on the shared accounts there's a lot more room for them to oversell because most shared clients don't use nearly that much space. Most resellers use close to their space limit though.

Also, allowing reselling on an account is a valuable service, but one that HG needs to support. They're charging a premium for these accounts that allow people to make their own money and there's value in that. It also costs them more because I'd assume the support takes a lot more time.

#4 12-01-2006, 08:36 AM

I d really like to know from a member of hostgator's staff whether they are planning for a bandwidth increase (for example 150GB or more at http://www.hostgator.com/shared.shtml ) or a price change (ie 150GB traffic for the price of 100GB).

I would also like to know whether I could pre-pay for a year and get a discount (For example 136$ instead of 12 x 14.95 = 174 $)

slapshotw · #5 12-01-2006, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulysses

I would also like to know whether I could pre-pay for a year and get a discount (For example 136$ instead of 12 x 14.95 = 174 $)

In my experience with hosts, paying by the year is never worth it. No matter how good HostGator is to us now, you don't want to be in a yearly contract with a host. HostGator agrees with this advice-- check out their tips page:

http://hostgator.com/tips.shtml#3

esl · #6 12-01-2006, 08:50 PM

Serra brought up a good point, you do get a billing manager.

I would imagine a reseller opens a great deal of trouble tickets on behalf of their client too. Atleast I do,

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#7 12-05-2006, 04:06 AM

I'm on a shared hosting plan (at gator) and last time I've checked my sites are on the same server with 200 other sites (including subdomains, gator's and planet's aliases etc).

Now, if 20 sites had an agreement and decided to buy "basic dedicated" for $174, that would be about $9 each. If, on the other hand, instead of 200 (with subs etc) there are now 80 sites, each paying $6.95 (shared "hatchling") that would be a total $556. Funny isn't it?

Anyway I'm still interested to know, first of all whether HG are planning bandwidth increase (the competitors have already done so), cost decrease, or anything similar and then whether they are planning shared plans with more bandwidth.

Thanks

quietFinn · #8 12-05-2006, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ulysses

Anyway I'm still interested to know, first of all whether HG are planning bandwidth increase (the competitors have already done so), cost decrease, or anything similar and then whether they are planning shared plans with more bandwidth.

Thanks

I am afraid you will not get an answer to that.
Do you really think you'd get an answer like "We are planning to lower our prices soon so do NOT order now!"

#9 12-05-2006, 07:57 AM

It seems that HG people are in my mind... and though they didn't replied here, they did something about it

As I said I'm on HG and I was thinking of moving on to another hosting provider... and while I was comparing prices with HG, I've seen the page (or prices) in question to change

http://www.hostgator.com/shared.shtml

I thought that it was my eyes, but I've compared it with Google's cache (2 Dec 2006 08:44:17 GMT) and YES the bandwidth has changed from 50 GB to 200GB, from 75GB to 1000GB, from 100GB to 2000GB (the semi-ded is the same)

Still a little paranoid I've checked the bandwidth option of "web/ftp stats" and the cpanel still shows the old limits... but...

Anyway, to sum up, could please someone working for HG verify the new bandwidth limits?

THANKS!

jimi089 · #10 12-05-2006, 12:08 PM

Yeah, and official reply woudl be great. I see the changes as well, but in my reseller plan, when I just logged into WHM, I have the same old space and bandwidth alottments as before - not upgraded to reflect the new offerings.

!

Eric · #11 12-05-2006, 06:38 PM

Just got off of live chat and he said we need to contact sales@hostgator.com to get our upgrades. I didnt find out anything about if there was a mistake or something though.

vtrain · #12 12-05-2006, 07:22 PM

Well, I was already an HG customer when the another upgrade was done and the rules were:
http://forums.hostgator.com/showthread.php?t=1207

Vtrain

Eric · #13 12-05-2006, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtrain

Well, I was already an HG customer when the another upgrade was done and the rules were:
http://forums.hostgator.com/showthread.php?t=1207

Vtrain

I think theyre talking about reseller hosting. Plus when I chatted with support he mentioned nothing about not being able to upgrade.

vtrain · #14 12-05-2006, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric

I think theyre talking about reseller hosting. Plus when I chatted with support he mentioned nothing about not being able to upgrade.

The reseller packages also increased bandwidth/disk space last few days...
Maybe it will be different this time.

Vtrain

Eric · #15 12-05-2006, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtrain

The reseller packages also increased bandwidth/disk space last few days...
Maybe it will be different this time.

Vtrain

Talked with live chat again and he said that they will be upgrading everyone over the next few months... so no telling how long it might be.

***GatorChad*** · #16 12-06-2006, 01:36 AM

Please see: http://forums.hostgator.com/showthread.php?p=41627

noonoo · #17 12-06-2006, 08:41 AM

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The new plans are for clients who upgrade, joined within 30 days of the new plan release effective immediately, and for our existing clients once we have upgraded the server that their sites are on.

I joined within the last 30 days and have been told i will not be upgraded with immediate affect as suggested in your post.

Holmis · #18 12-06-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by noonoo

I joined within the last 30 days and have been told i will not be upgraded with immediate affect as suggested in your post.

Same here...

inter-immobiliare.com · #19 12-06-2006, 11:24 AM

I would like to think transitioning new accounts would be a priority as any 30 day window would allow someone to close the account then open a new one with the new plans in place?? Am I wrong in that logic?

inter-immobiliare.com · #20 12-06-2006, 11:25 AM

Are the new plans posted? For reseller anyway?

slapshotw · #21 12-06-2006, 04:21 PM

Yes they are posted.

JoLo · #22 12-19-2006, 10:38 AM

How are resellers supposed to make any money selling hosting? For $24.95/month you give us 12GB of space to sell while you are selling 50GB of space for $7/month to customers. What customer would chose any plan we can create over the massive amount of space and bandwidth that you provide? Even if I choose the dedicated server route with you, I can't compete with those prices. It didn't affect me before because I primarily only host web sites that I develop for companies but lately, people have been wanting only web space. I'm sitting here trying to put together a reasonable plan that is consistent with the market but it is simply impossible. How is anyone making money by reselling hosting here at HG? Please enlighten me.

inter-immobiliare.com · #23 12-19-2006, 10:54 AM

I am using the reseller pkge only for my own sites. I think a lot of people here are doing the same. I also think that is what the package is intended for. I can't see a true reseller program build around less bandwidth/storage than you can get with the same company. BUT, given my current business model, I am happy with the package (once we get the upgrade) and support is out of this world.

bonehead · #24 12-19-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JoLo

How are resellers supposed to make any money selling hosting? For $24.95/month you give us 12GB of space to sell while you are selling 50GB of space for $7/month to customers. What customer would chose any plan we can create over the massive amount of space and bandwidth that you provide? Even if I choose the dedicated server route with you, I can't compete with those prices. It didn't affect me before because I primarily only host web sites that I develop for companies but lately, people have been wanting only web space. I'm sitting here trying to put together a reasonable plan that is consistent with the market but it is simply impossible. How is anyone making money by reselling hosting here at HG? Please enlighten me.

Because most people will never use anywhere near the max allowed. So per server and amount of users is over selling the hardware. But who is really going to use the 100gb of space and 1000gb of bandwidth?

JoLo · #25 12-20-2006, 10:05 AM

I guess I see what you are saying. But it's not like I can advertise selling web space / bandwidth that I don't have. Not because it's bad business but because cPanel/WHM won't let me. They only allow accounts to be created within the allocated web space / bandwidth available. And with only 12GB to work with, there is no way we can hold a candle to the amount HG is providing. So why don't they just bump our numbers up so we can make some money. I know most people won't use all that space but they at least want to know that they have it available. If they see what HG is providing and see the packages that I'm allowed to provide, they would think I'm trying to rip them off.