accounts closed after money is given

[GvilleRick]

Glad you found a host you like. I checked out their forums and you should post there. Your 15 posts on here would put you third on their list of most prolific posters.

[mirnitagl]

Great idea! I'll do just that!
And thanks for being glad for me, that's sweet. I am in fact very satisfied with my decision.
I might come back in a year and let you know how I am doing.
Maybe things go terribly wrong with this new host and I can put a smile on more than one people's faces over here. Who knows!

One thing is certain I will tell my TRUE experience.

[gwyneth]

My new definition of chutzpah: being outraged that people are upset that someone who got a lot of thoughtful answers posts affiliate links to another company.

Rick, maybe that company ranks posters on how many posts they make on other fora, not its own.

[GvilleRick]

Originally Posted by mirnitagl

I might come back in a year and let you know how I am doing.
Maybe things go terribly wrong with this new host and I can put a smile on more than one people's faces over here. Who knows!

One thing is certain I will tell my TRUE experience.

Can't wait. Bye-bye. Plonk.

(You might make your first post there letting them know that the first Topic in their forum should be Announcements and not Annoucements.)

[mirnitagl]

My new definition of "people to avoid": people being amazed at other people being outraged at their offenses and spamming insinuations.
As most things in live: think once, speak twice.

[gwyneth]

Originally Posted by mirnitagl

My new definition of "people to avoid"

Is that a promise? Thanks!

http://www.forumup.com/images/smiles...r_thankyou.gif

[CodyRo]

Originally Posted by Adorkable

HostGator is really too kind... There is no way I would let this person keep coming back when they're not hosted here, and don't plan to be.

Ha @ HawkHost being created in 2006.
I wonder who they're buying their reseller from.
A hosting review frequenter should be all too familiar with:
"The first few years were fine, then..."

It is not wise to look for stability without longevity.

Now I respect HostGator (who doesn't?) and their decision here (as previously mentioned, their experience with what accounts are likely to be fraudulent are bar none) - but I wanted to clear up the comments in this post.

HawkHost was actually founded in 2004 but we purchased the HawkHost name in 2006. Granted 4~ years is still an infant in this industry - we're not as new as you made us out to be (in retrospect, HostGator was founded in 2002).

We get our machines from SoftLayer and aren't reselling as you suggest.

Any who just thought I would clear a couple things up, I hope I didn't step on anyones toes .

Cheers,
Cody

[mirnitagl]

Codyro:

So there's a 2 year difference between the 2 companies??? wow, that's really huge difference. So 6 years= veteran, 4 years= infant. Good you made that clear.

Offering unlimited bandwidth is almost equal to overselling, but that's a huge topic in itself so if you say HG is not overselling, hey, I believe you.

Gwyneth, maybe it's just my English but :

My new definition of "people to avoid"

Is that a promise? Thanks!
Doesnt' really make any sense, does it?

So in case I myself was not clear, here I copy it again:

My new definition of "people to avoid": people being amazed at other people being outraged at their offenses and spamming insinuations.
As most things in life, Gwyneth, please " think once, speak twice"

I bet it's clear now.

[mirnitagl]

oooppps, Gwyneth, bad advice, it is in fact the opposite : "one must think twice and speak once"
and also one must "respect others to get respect"

[Adorkable]

It is unwise to look for stability without longevity.

My thoughts regarding the original poster really don't belong here.
I won't taint anyone's virgin eyes, lol.

This is for onlookers,
Don't trust your business to a host that may disappear in the next 6 months. It really happens all too often. Be sure that your host at least has staying power.

There are people here who have been HostGator (HG) customers long before this 2-year old host was even thought of. And I am here typing this when I could be watching television.
HG is doing quite a few things right.


@mirnitagl:
You know at the top...
Where it says HostGator Peer Support Forums and a little to the right where it says Pre-Sales Questions.

That tells you what goes in a certain forum category.

This is spam.

If the "person" wanted your information so badly, they would have carefully given their e-mail.

[Adorkable]

Originally Posted by CodyRo

Now I respect HostGator (who doesn't?) and their decision here (as previously mentioned, their experience with what accounts are likely to be fraudulent are bar none) - but I wanted to clear up the comments in this post.

HawkHost was actually founded in 2004 but we purchased the HawkHost name in 2006. Granted 4~ years is still an infant in this industry - we're not as new as you made us out to be (in retrospect, HostGator was founded in 2002).

We get our machines from SoftLayer and aren't reselling as you suggest.

Any who just thought I would clear a couple things up, I hope I didn't step on anyones toes .

Cheers,
Cody

Seriously?

HostGator is that big of threat that HH employees are coming from their sparse forum to post here?

That's sad.

Oh and yes, it makes perfect sense to buy your host name 2 years after you start the company.

This is spam, spam, spam.


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One vote for delete it...

[striddy]

Originally Posted by mirnitagl

oooppps, Gwyneth, bad advice, it is in fact the opposite : "one must think twice and speak once"
and also one must "respect others to get respect"

Are you quite finished now?

I'm sure we are all glad that you found your "perfect webhost," however if you spent as much time and creative energy starting to create your website at your new found hosting company instead of wasting your breath here, you might actually have a website.

Quit wasting your time along with our time here in this forum. Instead trot along and post in your new hosts forum as they will be the ones to ask for help from now on. I don't expect anyone here will be keen to give you any advice from now on as you are clearly not a HG customer nor will be anytime soon.

Bye bye now.

[mirnitagl]

This is for onlookers,
If you are looking for longevity then don't look for 4 or 6 ridiculous years online, look for 10 or 20 years, that's long enough to get an opinion on overall service.
And be 20 or 4 years, always read people's experiences with that host (good, bad and neutral) and do not be deceived by tricks like "unlimited space" "unlimited bandwidth" Look always for the small print and read it carefully.

Adorkable, if you are here writing and not watching TV (or doing sth fun, TV really sucks sometimes) it only means that you have plenty of spare time or that you just love writing here, in any case it means you have made a choice. Making a personal choice doesn't prove anything about any host quality, it doesn't say anything in favor or against HG, in fact it just says a lot about yourself and your likes and/or choices. As simple as that.

The person who wrote to me did give me her email and I in fact I emailed her 3 times, but got the emails bounced back so I decided to post. I guess you missed that part, well, you can always go back and read it well.

I don't understand well what has been said about HH staff coming here to write. Is that true or just part of a very creative imagination? As I suppose you were not referring to me, that would be way too ridiculous, then could it be possible that someone writing in this thread works for HH? who? I have always been replied by Tony, at HH client's attention, so I take advantage to congratulate Tony on a superb job.

Gwyneth, I do with my time whatever I feel like and it is none of your business nor do I care if you like it or not. You know nothing about my businesses and have absolutely no idea if I have a million sites or I am building just one, ha,ha, wait, I have to stop to laugh a little. If only you knew! ha,ha. Like I was saying, having a site or 50 is also none of your business.
If you don't like what I write, do not read it. You do have that choice, you know?
Freedom of speech involves absolutely everyone and I have as much right to speak in this forum as yourself, and do not need to buy HG hosting plans or have the desire of hiring it in the near future. If you are one of those people who can't bare an opinion different than your own, go find some island and elect yourself the sole dictator of it.
As long as you keep on addressing to me in that tone, I will correspond in the same manner.
You will not get respect until you show some.

[mirnitagl]

Where I wrote, Gwyneth I meant Striddy. In fact, that paragraph is addressed to all who think their opinions are the only ones that should be heard or expressed. I feel sorry for such poor people!

[striddy]

Originally Posted by mirnitagl

If you are looking for longevity then don't look for 4 or 6 ridiculous years online, look for 10 or 20 years, that's long enough to get an opinion on overall service.

Hmm... 20 years online .... let's see, 2008 minus 20 = 1988. That's quite a concept. I've been online since 1995 and there was only a handful of hosts around back then. Wonder what hosts were around in 1988?

Originally Posted by mirnitagl

I have as much right to speak in this forum as yourself, and do not need to buy HG hosting plans or have the desire of hiring it in the near future.

This pre-sales forum is for posting pre-sales question not endless pages of dribble.

Originally Posted by mirnitagl

You will not get respect until you show some.

Respect is earned, and you haven't earned it.

By the way, why are you still posting again?

[Adorkable]

Last post in this spam thread...
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look for 10 or 20 years, that's long enough to get an opinion on overall service.

But you are with a 2 year old company.
Hypocrite, much?

do not be deceived by tricks like "unlimited space" "unlimited bandwidth" Look always for the small print and read it carefully.

HostGator's Terms of Service (TOS) are at the bottom of almost every page.
Which hardly makes it "small print".
Perhaps you're speaking about HH,
Since I can't seem to find their TOS anywhere.

it doesn't say anything in favor or against HG, in fact it just says a lot about yourself and your likes and/or choices. As simple as that.

It actually does, but you don't seem to get it.
So, I will spell it out nicely.
HostGator is a great service.
They are not perfect (as nothing is), and do not claim to be.
In fact,
They're kind enough to let people like you post in THEIR forum.
Allow people to write bad/neutral/good reviews in THEIR forum.
And, they're so great,
I am taking my own time to offer a rebuttal to arguments against them.

The person who wrote to me did give me her email and I in fact I emailed her 3 times, but got the emails bounced back so I decided to post. I guess you missed that part, well, you can always go back and read it well.

Hmm... Now what was it I said?
Oh yeah...
If the "person" wanted your information so badly, they would have carefully given their e-mail.
So, I clearly read your statement.
Otherwise I would not have known she gave you an invalid email address.
I don't feel you are above lying to get attention.

I don't understand well what has been said about HH staff coming here to write. Is that true or just part of a very creative imagination? As I suppose you were not referring to me, that would be way too ridiculous, then could it be possible that someone writing in this thread works for HH? who? I have always been replied by Tony, at HH client's attention, so I take advantage to congratulate Tony on a superb job.

If you spent a bit more time in your own host's forum.
You would have noticed a member there: Cody (an Administrator)
This is what Cody posted here:
http://forums.hostgator.com/showpost...3&postcount=59

I have as much right to speak in this forum as yourself, and do not need to buy HG hosting plans or have the desire of hiring it in the near future.

Let me dumb it down for you.
This is the HostGator Peer Support Forum, and you are posting in the Pre-Sales Questions section
1. You are not supporting HostGator customers, and potential customers.
2. You are not a HostGator Peer (customer)
3. Your "Pre-Sales Question" was answered many posts ago
4. Your current posts are not in reference to "Pre-Sales Questions"

Therefore,
You are doing nothing more than spamming.
This section is not for Website Promotion, Advertising, General Discussion, Dear Diary, or .

I have taken a lot of trouble to find the "perfect host" why shouldn't I share it with others

That's sweet. But, oh dear...

Your "perfect host" hasn't had a single forum post in 3 days.
And they have a section called Lounge Area where you can discuss anything!
But still,
You've posted in our "not perfect host" forum many times today in the section clearly marked Pre-Sales Questions.

I'm sure you're much more wanted at their forum.
Since it's, you know, the place where you're actually hosted, lmao.

Farewell.

[oMega_2093]

Hola Mirna, saludos desde España. ¿Podrías explicarme un poco por encima el problema? Hay muchísimo texto por leer y ahora mismo no me encuentro con fuerzas para leerlo todo. Si me lo resumes un poco estaría muy agradecido.

Verás, en febrero de este año contraté hosting con HostGator, posteriormente envié algunos tickets de soporte y me pidieron verificar dándoles la información del número de transacción y todo eso de PayPal, y sin problema.

No se exactamente a qué te refieres con que piden información personal. ¿Podrías explicármelo un poco? Si prefieres no hacerlo no te preocupes, mañana leo el hilo entero e intento ayudarte en lo que pueda o sepa.

English: I'm asking mirnitagl to tell me in short what happened and what's her problem. I'm also from Spain and I also used Paypal, so maybe I'll be able to help. Tomorrow I'll read the whole thread, but I think some posts recently sent here are slightly off topic, aren't them?

Regards.

[mirnitagl]

Hola!
Te resumo lo que ocurre. Como suelo hacer con casi todo, antes de contratar un proveedor de hosting investigué exhaustivamente todos los hostings mas populares y de los que mejor se hablaba en la red, los pros y los contras. Al ser la mayoria de mis clientes de EEUU y de Reino Unido, buscaba un host que fuera de esos paises. Asi di con HG y con este foro. El caso es que en la pagina de HG todo pintaba muy bonito, todo ilimitado, todo fastastico, registro inmediato,bla,bla,bla, pero lo que decian en los foros (incluyendo este) dejaba mucho que desear. Date una vuelta por los foros, no espera, no vayas tan lejos, en este mismo hay gente echando pestes de HG porque les han cancelado la cuenta sin previo aviso y han perdido clientes , negocios y blogs. Si no lo has hecho, leete la letra pequeña de HG y te sorprenderá saber cuanto ancho de banda puedes usar realmente, y que no se te ocurra pasarte pues te darán un masazo en el mismo centro. Obviamente no hablo de este hilo, este es el hilo de los fanaticos de HG.
Una de las cosas que mas me llamó la atención en otros foros como WMT, eran los comentarios de extranjeros (mayormente de Europa del este o paises como Nicaragua) que habian pagado con paypal y luego los habian tenido hasta 2 meses con la cuenta desactivada pidiendoles llamadas de verificacion, datos personales y toda una serie de medidas para al final decirles que no podian dar el servicio (o en algunos casos ellos mismos se cabreaban y pedian el dinero de vuelta) El caso es que si trabajas con paypal sabes que tanto el pago como la devolucion (si se hacen) son inmediatos, pero algunos "duros de mente" en este foro no acaban de entenderlo y justifican 2 meses de espera para dicha devolución en que "son cosas de la tarjeta" "son problemas del banco" ¡Cuentos chinos!
El caso es que oyendo todas estas historias, aparte de las del famoso overselling que HG practica a mansalva, decidí NO contratar los servicios de HG y se los dije. Pero sobre todo porque encontré una empresa estupenda que se compromete no solo a devolverte el dinero si no te da el ancho de banda que promete sino que también te lo devuelve si no cumple su promesa de uptime al 99,9. Y son casi o mas baratos que HG. Imaginate! Pero no contenta con estos compromisos, visité los foros más candentes, donde la gente no hace mas que decir horrores de sus experiencias de hospedajes y adivina que, no hay ni una sola persona que hable mal de mi nuevo host, ni una, todos los que hablan de este host solo dicen maravilas. Y ahora que estoy con ellos entiendo por que, son excelente en trato, servicio, y tienen una velocidad de vértigo. Me parece alucinante haber encontrado un host que lleve 4 años en servicio y tenga a todos contentos. Y claro, te imaginarás que pasó cuando conté esto justo aqui, ja,ja. Lo mas gracioso es que entró una chica a preguntarme cual era mi nuevo host, que ella también buscaba uno como lo que yo describía, me pidió que le dejara mi enlace de afiliado para asi darse de alta y agradecerme indirectamente el "haber investigado por ella" en cierto modo. Yo no tenia enlace aun pero corrí a hacerme con uno, no iba a desperdiciar la ocasión. El caso es que le envié 3 emails con la respuesta y me los rebotaban, no se aun por que, y le escribi la respuesta en este post. Otra discusión mas! La gente aqui no admite que alguien determine no darse de alta en este dichoso portal e irse con otra compañia , sus argumentos son infantiles como que mi host es un novato que empezó ayer y por eso no tiene quejas aun y que HG es un host veterano. Cuando pregunto que diferencia en años se llevan ¿a que no adivinas cuanto? 2 añitos!!!! ja,ja, dos añitos online hacen a HG todo un vejete y a HH un bebe recien nacido. Supongo que los clientes mas que insatisfechos que tiene HG los acumuló justo en esos dos añitos de diferencia, no? Es patético!
Groso modo es lo que pasa aqui y la verdad es que ellos no lo saben pero yo me lo estoy pasando pipa, practico el inglés, los hago rabiar hasta que sueltan espumarajos por la boca y me entretengo un rato en lo que reviso mis ventas y compruebo como marchan mis sitios online.
Ha sido un placer saludarte y te agradezco mucho que te intereses por mi, ademas de que entre tanto inglés siempre es agradable escuchar la lengua de Cervantes. Si hay algo en lo que te pueda ayudar, solo dimelo y si necesitas mas info, aqui me tienes.
Besos cariñosos desde un caluroso Levante, Mirna.

[mirnitagl]

Now for the rest of you:

Adorkable, for your info, HH is a 4-year old company and being with them does not show hypocrisy but common sense. In their 4 years of service they keep all their clients happy, there's not even one bad review about them, and HG has people in this very forum (you do not have to go very far) telling horror stopries about their accounts being closed without prior notice because they didn't read "unlimited bandwidth" does have a limit.
You claim that a 6-year-old company is an old veteran company whereas a 4-year-old is a crying little baby. Ha,ha, you're not hypocrit, just pathetic.
I suppose all those people talking against HG service signed up ONLY during those 2 years difference. What a poor poor argument!!!

The fact that you're writing in this thread instead of watching TV (or doing another boring activity) talks about yourself and not about HG.
If we were to judge a host service for the comments of its members in a forum, then this people would say HG must be doing things very wrong and accoding to your theory they'd be right:

http://forums.hostgator.com/images/icons/negative.gifA year and a half experience


(-)Hostgator is NIGHTMARE!

(-)High latency


(-) Disappointed with HG hosting and support

(-) Leaving HostGator after a 1+ year of service


And these are just a few recent comments I took from THIS very forum. Does these people's bad experiences mean HG sucks??? I don't think so, the same way host-lickers do not make a host any better.
If I had selected comments from other fora where people speak freely about their experinces without having a bunch of fanatics telling him/her what to say and what not, the list would have been way too long to publish here.

Most people visit hosting fora to solve doubts, to share their experiences, to get help on making desicions whether they should sign up with this or that company and finally to exchange opinions. And thanks to this thread I have discovered that some also do it to impose their viewpoints, listening to himself/herself talking and feel very important for it, lol, and also to kill some spare time. Imagine, is either this or watching TV? Talking about being pathetic!

Thanks to those fora, unbiased and free, where anybody from anywhere can write whatever they feel like, I made the desicion of NOT signing up with HG and rush to sign up with HH.
It is a wonderful thing that HH forum is not so active "No news is good news" I could have entered myself and ask people about my newbie doubts or complaints, if only I had any.
Adorkable, allow me the pleasure if dumbing down for you now:
HH registration was so fast, easy and smooth that no matter how hard I try to find something to ask I find nothing. Files transfer were went perfect, speed is really fast, price is really low, bandwidth is exactly what I paid for, uptime is REALLY guaranteed, all my domains, stores and blogs are working splendidly. Client's attention is superb and fast.
So, I can imagine a conversation at HH forum.
Mirna: "I'm glad with HH service"
Brad: "Me too"
John: "so far so good"
Mary: "2 years now and I can't complaint"
Jessica: "The same for me"

Jimmy "I think i'll go watch some TV now" ha,ha, lmao
I guess that explains why this forum is so active,ha,ha.

I must admit guys that watching how your veins almost explode every time someone has something slightly bad or even worst, something different to say from your viewpoints, is rerally better than "watch tv"
I'll miss so much these funny moments, lol.

Striddy, I meant to reply to you, I really did, but when I read your last message I got so disappointed! You're running out if ideas and need to take mine??? That's soooo sad! Yes, striddy, that's exactly what I meant when I talked about respect. You have to earn it and also show it, and that's why for me you deserve none. yes, that's what I said, do you get it now?
Please, when you have some phrases or thoughts on your own, do come and share it. You know what they say "if at firts you don't suceed, try,try again" Ufffff!!!!! That's got to hurt!

[cleanxhost]

Listen now clearly mirnitagl, you have had your say in this forum for the last few days, your conversation f***ing bores me, you have made your decision to go with HH, so f***ing go there and do your f***ing rants, as I am bored with your f***ing sh*t and so are others!!!
Is that clear?

If you don't understand me here it is again...

Listen now clearly mirnitagl, you have had your say in this forum for the last few days, your conversation f***ing bores me, you have made your decision to go with HH, so f***ing go there and do your f***ing rants, as I am bored with your f***ing sh*t and so are others!!!
Is that clear?

[mirnitagl]

Cleanxhost. The only thing that is crystal clear is your lack of education and manners.

Go bite your nails elsewhere! If you are f***ing bored, then don't f***ing read this thread, don't give any stupid f***ing answer that really adds nothing new but the f***ing evidence that you have f***ing nothing else to do than come here and write some f***ing notes. I didn't asked your f***ing opinion so go and give it to someone who f***ing cares. Go watch TV or better, try this I go wherever I want and I write whatever I feel, you're less than nothing to tell me what to do.


And I bet that as good boy you'll do your homework and read it well so I don't have to repeat it, won't you?


Like said before "if you don't respect others you won't get respect yourself"

[regentronique]

Please, is it possible that someone more civile and respectuous than the other stop the ping pong game of insults and irrespects.

Anyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but we are supposed to be grown ups here, not spoiled brats battling to know who control the thread or the forum or even HostGator itself...

Please, refrain the use of bad words and curses. If someone do not like the way another express his/her opinion and had no result in trying to make that person understand politely, just put that person on your "Ignore List" and/or report their post and try to have respect for all other innocent people reading this thread.

Thank you!

[striddy]

Originally Posted by mirnitagl

I meant to reply to you, I really did, but when I read your last message I got so disappointed! You're running out if ideas and need to take mine??? That's soooo sad! Yes, striddy, that's exactly what I meant when I talked about respect. You have to earn it and also show it, and that's why for me you deserve none. yes, that's what I said, do you get it now?
Please, when you have some phrases or thoughts on your own, do come and share it. You know what they say "if at firts you don't suceed, try,try again

Hola Mirna,
You are still here posting endless dribble and still spitting the dummy I see. Maybe the heat is getting to your or something, you seriously need to chill out.

I thought it interesting that you haven't posted a single comment in your new found love's forum. Not a single post to say how amazingly happy you are to have found them.

And ... why are you still here posting again?

[mirnitagl]

You're absolutely right. I second that.
In fact, I must reprimend myself for my reply to rudeness. What I did was precisely to lower myself to that person's level thus critizing something I was doing myself.
I stick to my opinions, which I am entitled to express freely here and everywhere, but yes, for respect to respectful readers, I must refrain from answering rudely if I get a rude comment.
Little-educated people have their punishment in their very lack of education, not a model to imitate.
Thank you for reminding us that and put some sense into this senseless discussion.

[mirnitagl]

Speaking of which, here she comes again.
Striddy,

Instead of asking me why I am writing again, why don't you ask yourself what are you doing back here writing once more???? I guess TV is not that good today, is it?..or is it something else? I warn you, I am married and like men only.

I have not posted anything yet in HH forum because saying things go great over there is absolutely no news for anyone in HH, things go really well and everybody knows it. There are no threads saying "this is a nightmare" no " my account got closed" No "Why don't you answer me after 6 hours?"
Nothing, just good comments and compliments, kind of boring, isn't it?
But well, if you insist I'll go say my praises in that forum, it is so sweet of you to think of HH. Be careful, someone might call you a traitor over here.Watch out!